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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post

    Here is my question...why will our legal system not go after the Mom in this case...he reported it to her prior and she did not alert authorities. Same with the therapists and Moms of MOST of the whack job mass murders or random killings. Our society wants to hold gun-makers and bar-tenders responsible for a "possible" but not direct personal connections who KNEW the person was headed over the edge. That is whacked to me.
    Are you talking about civil or criminal law? Civilly I know of nothing that would prevent a victim from going after the mother, but of course when you are talking about civil law, you are talking about $$ and when you are talking about $$, the lawyers are not looking for the most culpable person, they are looking for the one with the deepest pockets. Mom probably doesn't have a pot to piss in but Facebook has billions.

    In terms of criminal law, we generally only impose duties-to-report on people in very specific circumstances (for example, teachers and child care workers have a "duty to report' suspected abuse and can be punished criminally if they are negligent in those duties.)

    The difficulty with imposing duties like this in criminal law is that now you have to prove what somebody else "knew." That's a tough standard of proof.
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    The difficulty with imposing duties like this in criminal law is that now you have to prove what somebody else "knew." That's a tough standard of proof.
    Criminal. Agreed.

    But the Psychologist for Holmes wrote down that he was a threat. This turd at least claims he told his Mom he was going over the edge of the cliff. If a few people for whom it is easy to prove knew get prosecuted, and we de-shamed the reporting of another who is hurting before he flips out, that seems like a noble effort. In the PC era of "everyone is just fine" everyone is scared to say, "Hey, that person is dangerous" and even when we do, the Politicians and Civil Liberty lawyers, yes even Reagan had a hand, puts the people who need help out in the public. We have shifted so much funding to people who won't work away from those people in our society that really need our help. A civilized society should help the Mentally Ill, Indigent Elderly, Veterans, many have a toe in all three groups. I really dislike that about our country right now that the squeaky wheels are getting the grease.
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    Given all the documented criminal conduct using Facebook, it would be in keeping with Bloomberg's totalitarian philosophy to require background checks and government registration before opening and using a Facebook account.

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    Welcome to "social media". It was just a matter of time.
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    News reporting that he offed himself after a pursuit in Erie

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    Thanks for update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    News reporting that he offed himself after a pursuit in Erie
    Thankfully he did. I really didn't feel like paying to feed and house him for the rest of his miserable life.

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    His last meal was Chicken McNuggets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    His last meal was Chicken McNuggets.

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...ller_orde.html
    I thought his last meal was a 9mm hollow point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    I thought his last meal was a 9mm hollow point?
    That was just the last thing that went thru his mind. Good riddance.
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