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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Pook View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    Here's an idea - how about focusing on the guy with the gun THAT'S SHOOTING PEOPLE?
    When the first officers on scene asked people what they witnessed in order to attempt to identify the shooter and multiple people indicated there were several people with guns as well, it gets reported as multiple shooters and it does take awhile to get to the truth of just one shooter. There were several hundred people inside the store at the time and all saw/heard different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevDen2005 View Post
    Except there are hundreds of angles and cameras don't show every angle of the entire store the entire time.
    He shot three people by the cash registers ... half the cameras in Walmart are trained on the cash register area.
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    Thornton PD's whining about the armed citizens is really rubbing me the wrong way.

    If the perp had decided for continue his attack, who was in the position to engage him- The police? NO! Armed citizens? YES! It would fall to the father with two kids hiding behind a deli case with his .38 snub.

    The first videos you look at are the ones from the shooting location, and IDing the guy actually firing at the victims. Sure, if you want to fully process the entire crime scene, tracking the movements of other armed parties would be part of that exercise to eliminate all potential for additional suspects. Saying that the armed citizens delayed the ID of the main perp is asinine.
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    9news had a thing on their site this morning quoting the neighbor of this guy stating he hated hispanics and said vulgar things about them, and that "he was a ticking time bomb." Further fomenting of the "racism" in America line. With Trump in office, and all the talk of immigration stuff lately, this is going to be a hot button issue for some time longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    Thornton PD's whining about the armed citizens is really rubbing me the wrong way.

    If the perp had decided for continue his attack, who was in the position to engage him- The police? NO! Armed citizens? YES! It would fall to the father with two kids hiding behind a deli case with his .38 snub.

    The first videos you look at are the ones from the shooting location, and IDing the guy actually firing at the victims. Sure, if you want to fully process the entire crime scene, tracking the movements of other armed parties would be part of that exercise to eliminate all potential for additional suspects. Saying that the armed citizens delayed the ID of the main perp is asinine.
    I don't think they ever said it delayed the ID of the main suspect but it did delay their conclusion that there was only one suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newracer View Post
    I don't think they ever said it delayed the ID of the main suspect but it did delay their conclusion that there was only one suspect.
    Regardless, using the words straight from Thronton PD, the MEDIA IMPRESSION is to portray the armed citizens' presence as disrupting and problematic.

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    Curious why deploy the flash bang on the sidewalk AFTER the perp was in custody? Was that an “oops” moment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    9news had a thing on their site this morning quoting the neighbor of this guy stating he hated hispanics and said vulgar things about them, and that "he was a ticking time bomb." Further fomenting of the "racism" in America line. With Trump in office, and all the talk of immigration stuff lately, this is going to be a hot button issue for some time longer.
    Coincident/random or not, I belive all 3 victims were Hispanic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    Coincident/random or not, I belive all 3 victims were Hispanic?
    They were. I don't really believe in coincidences.

    I will say that the Public Defenders jumped on this guy pretty quick. Odds are, due to media coverage, he's been told to keep his yap closed.
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