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I've never like Reminton's branding they do on the right side of the slide on their semi-auto handguns - it reminds me of what Gunsmoke used to do. They may or may not be good handguns but I'll never know first hand as I have zero interest in owning one of those handguns that you can read the brand from across the street.
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That is quite ugly... not to mention their sub-compact, the R51 is one FUGLY pistol. I still love my R700 though.Originally Posted by theGinsue
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The R51 is a steaming pile, even after their recall and redesign. A real shame, as I liked the looks of the gun.
I had an R1 1911, and I didn't mind the stamping on the slide. It was a bit much, yeah, but not enough to bug me, like the Gunsmoke slides would have.
It's too bad too because I had such hopes before it's release & subsequent redesign. It's a great idea on paper but poor execution unfortunately.
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It was going to be a little American PPK. Instead it was a PPK/Shit
Will probably become another Chinese/European owned company soon.
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I think at this point a Pakistani made short sword has more hallmarks of quality than the latest Remington guns. This couldn't have happened to nicer folks.
I did a lot of research before I picked up a Marlin from a forum member here, having never owned one before. There is a big feeling of Marlin stuff going to shit after Remington.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I found was that the first year or two, there were a lot of turds put out there. Then they got their tooling and QC back in line after the move and quality went back up. The lever gun I have was made in '10 IIRC and is a very well made, fit and finish is beautiful, and it shoots and functions perfectly. I friggin love it.
The hard core Marlin guys on the Marlin forums and such believe that anything without the JM stamp is total shit. Hardly. Maybe more desirable for resale value though.
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Based on the fact that all three of my top level executive and all three of my engineering contacts at Remington left this year...I would say they are in trouble.
The QC has declined in some (not all) of their product lines as well. They had some serious QC issues in some lines, others were minor. But being behind the curtain, it sure looked to me like apathy more than anything else. Bean counters over-ruling designers, marketers and engineers is never a good strategy from a health perspective. Yes, they built a new factory in Alabama for ammunition production.
All that said, the moves they have made in the past 5 years make them ripe for a buyout, which the owners may in fact have done on purpose. They are also well positioned for a buy and sell off of the profitable lines while liquidating those losing money. Also realize it is not just "Remington" but also Bushmaster, AAC, Marlin, H&R, Dakota Arms, Para, Parker, Tapco, and Barnes. Remington itself could easily be considered to be 4 different entities in how it is structured. Remington long guns are not going to cease production anytime soon. But some of their other lines I will bet get hacked. I am already seeing the price drops at distributor level in a few lines. They ran a 35% off parts and accessories sale over Thanksgiving week.
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