Denver Bump Stock / Binary Trigger / Mag Ban

[Eric P]

The video is more than six months old, any knowledge or links as to where the process is currently?

I have asked, no response yet.

Likely none as these move at a snails pace.

[Skip]

NYsafe act has no bearing on what jersey does. NJ just became worse with the new gov'nr who wants to mirror CA as an east coast progressive enclave

NY law is international law (kidding). Bloomberg and DeBlasio both think they can travel the country looking for gun control violations.

No, NYSafe is not a NJ law but it's the same issue that will wind/unwind in the same way.

And the new gov is a Democrat POS but I'm being verbose.

I'm trying to find it, but the CA voter mag ban has been challenged and has been halted by the judge. The gun collective did a legal brief. It could have serious implications against the anti gunners if up held, especially if it goes to the USSC. Could undo all mag and gun type bans.

^ This is what I'm touching on.

Assuming Miller is dead there are still lines somewhere according to judges in very liberal jurisdictions.

NY says seven rounds is too little and arbitrary (kind of a stupid statement since all gun laws are arbitrary).

CA says you can't confiscate property.

Heller says you're entitled to a own a firearm as an individual right. McDonald says that right extends to all of the US (except NYC apparently).

These decisions are seemingly worthless unless you have a petitioner/defendant in each jurisdiction with $200,000 in his pocket to navigate the legal system (basing that on McDonald).

Anyone in Denver own a G17 and want to spend $200K?

[CoGirl303]

Does anyone actually still honestly believe that a "bump stock" was used in the Vegas shooting?

Because I sure as hell KNOW that was no bump stock firing down on those people. That was 100% guaranteed an M-240 belt fed US Army full automatic machine gun. The chop sound was way too discernable and all the bump stock vid's on youtube sound nothing like the weapon used at Vegas.

[hurley842002]

Does anyone actually still honestly believe that a "bump stock" was used in the Vegas shooting?

Because I sure as hell KNOW that was no bump stock firing down on those people. That was 100% guaranteed an M-240 belt fed US Army full automatic machine gun. The chop sound was way too discernable and all the bump stock vid's on youtube sound nothing like the weapon used at Vegas.

Well, you've gone and ensured that pretty much nobody on this forum except maybe Bushmasterboy will ever take you seriously again. Do you have any facts supporting your wild claims on the LV incident?

[Irving]

Now where did I put my belt-fed popcorn gun...

[izzy]

Now where did I put my belt-fed popcorn gun...

You're killing me with these today, I'm cracking up

[CoGirl303]

Well, you've gone and ensured that pretty much nobody on this forum except maybe Bushmasterboy will ever take you seriously again. Do you have any facts supporting your wild claims on the LV incident?

Military experience firing both the M-240 and the M-249 personally while I was in basic training. Trained ear.

https://screengist.com/2017/10/02/up...shooters-room/

m240 sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyvd6VzitsM

Vegas shooting sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQYv...has_verified=1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj9q3DVQMek


The discernible "chop" of a belt fed automatic is completely different than that of a magazine fed automatic. Only experience can teach you this. Having been around firearms for 30+ years (since age 7), I trust my ears, experience and knowledge over what the media feeds us or wants us to believe.

As for everyone else, there's not much I can do about that.

[hurley842002]

Military experience firing both the M-240 and the M-249 personally while I was in basic training. Trained ear.

https://screengist.com/2017/10/02/up...shooters-room/

m240 sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyvd6VzitsM

Vegas shooting sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQYv...has_verified=1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj9q3DVQMek


The discernible "chop" of a belt fed automatic is completely different than that of a magazine fed automatic. Only experience can teach you this. Having been around firearms for 30+ years (since age 7), I trust my ears, experience and knowledge over what the media feeds us or wants us to believe.

As for everyone else, there's not much I can do about that.

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[CoGirl303]

way too many shots fired in the opening volley to be a magazine or even a 100 yard drum. Rate of fire is too fast and way too consistent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLYehHoM2yQ

How many yards away is he horizontally and vertically from the concert area? 400-500 or more? Do you honestly think a bump stocked AR-15 is going to hit in that area from 400-500 yards, while maintaining that rate of fire that consistently? Not buying it one bit. I've also fired the Slide Fire I own and it's not easy, but that doesn't sound like a bump fire to me. Just my opinion. you don't have to like it.

[KevDen2005]

way too many shots fired in the opening volley to be a magazine or even a 100 yard drum. Rate of fire is too fast and way too consistent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLYehHoM2yQ

How many yards away is he horizontally and vertically from the concert area? 400-500 or more? Do you honestly think a bump stocked AR-15 is going to hit in that area from 400-500 yards, while maintaining that rate of fire that consistently? Not buying it one bit. I've also fired the Slide Fire I own and it's not easy, but that doesn't sound like a bump fire to me. Just my opinion. you don't have to like it.

I wonder if you are familiar with how echoing works.

Apparently someone failed rifle class on effective rage of the M4 platform at a group target....

The slide fire is like anything else. Easy if you know how to use it or if you practice with it.

I have no idea what happened in Vegas and neither does anyone else.