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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrey View Post
    These people want to make a statement. They want to show the world that they aren’t losers. They want to make us understand their pain. They want to make their peer group realize that they are powerful. They’ll show us. The solution is easy. It’s right there in front of your nose.

    If you can kill enough people at one time, you’ll be on the news, 24/7, round the clock coverage. You will become the most famous person in the world. Everyone will know your name. You become a celebrity. Experts will try to understand what you were thinking. Hell, the President of the United States, the most important man in the world, will drop whatever he is doing and hold a press conference to talk about your actions, and he’ll even shed a single manly tear.

    You are a star.
    Wow.. what a long post.. lol

    Actually this is a position that many psychiatric groups hold.. After Sandy Hook one group put out a paper about the motivations behind school shooters and their conclusion was that if the media voluntarily withheld the name of the perp as well as any and all info about the perp as in who, what, why these incidents would be drastically reduced. These are extreme narcissists that believe the world is about them and that they deserve something, they aren't even necessarily mentally ill in a clinical way. There isn't a need to arm schools, if the media just quit talking about these guys it would most likely fade away. Christ, we still glorify the Columbine guys every year with documentaries about the event on national TV and references in the local media about the "anniversary" every year.

    Here's a small sampling:
    https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/pdf....9781615371099

    From the above report ^^

    "The majority of attention following mass shootings focuses on the role of menta lillness, and sociocultural factors have received comparatively little examination.Gun violence “in all its forms has a social context,” which is not meaningfully captured by psychiatric diagnoses in isolation (Metzl and Macleish 2015, p. 247).Mass shootings by disgruntled individuals have occurred in Western civilization since the invention of the gun. Alienation and social rejection are social phenomena that undoubtedly existed even before recorded history. Nevertheless,mass shootings over the past two to three decades have led to speculation about whether these differ from mass shootings of the past or whether they represent the same phenomenon in a more modern age. Another salient concern is whether the powerful social influence of today’s media and Internet technology plays a significant role. As noted above (see “Mass Shootings: What Is Known”), the FBI study finding that the incidence of mass shootings has increased over the past decade hints at other, possibly more relevant factors associated with these events relative to mental illness or psychiatric diagnosis. Since the 1990s, mass murders, and especially mass shootings, have arguably taken on a different quality, influenced by a cultural shift, social media, and expansive news coverage of the tragedies.Mullen (2004) described the results of his detailed forensic evaluations of five pseudocommando mass shooters who were captured before they were killed or could commit suicide. Most perpetrators acknowledged being influenced by previous mass killers who received significant media exposure. This led Mullen to propose the concept of a Western cultural “script” as one of several factors that contribute to the propagation of these tragic events."

    "Narcissism has been demonstrated inthe motivations and statements made by certain mass shooters since the 1990s.In 2007, a man who shot nine people in an Omaha, Nebraska, mall before killing himself left a suicide note that stated, “Just think tho [sic] I’m gonna be famous”(Kluger 2007; Nichols 2007). A similar message was communicated by the Columbine offenders, who stated on a pre shooting video, “Isn’t it fun to get the respect we’re going to deserve?” (Twenge and Campbell 2003, p. 261)

    Twenge and Campbell (2009) noted that crime has dropped overall since the1990s due to a variety of factors, but crimes related to narcissism (or a woundedego) have not had a corresponding drop and are directly relevant to mass shootings.These authors further noted that “narcissism and social rejection were tworisk factors that worked together to cause aggressive behavior” (p. 199), and thesefactors have certainly been apparent in the histories of mass shooters. They concluded,“Given the upswing in the narcissistic values of American culture sincethe ’90s, it may be no coincidence that mass shootings became a national plaguearound the same time” (p. 200)."

    https://www.jedfoundation.org/the-me...ass-shootings/

    https://www.reportingonmassshootings.org/
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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    Christ, we still glorify the Columbine guys every year with documentaries about the event on national TV and references in the local media about the "anniversary" every year.
    All the people who bought bumper stickers and license plate weren't kidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    All the people who bought bumper stickers and license plate weren't kidding.
    Respect Life Bro

    But seriously, can you imagine what they are gonna do this anniversary when this gun ban topic is so hot or next anniversary being 20 years

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