Hanguard over suppressor.

**Wolfshoon** · 02-27-2018, 00:07

Originally Posted by electronman1729

I'd stay away. Heat transfer into hand guard plus in my opinion high chance of cross threading if you remove your suppressor.

That is another reason I'd go with the ALG, if for whatever reason the suppressor got stuck you could undo the screws that hold the handguard to the barrel nut and slide it out over the suppressor and have full access to the barrel and suppressor.

**To Bear Arms** · 02-27-2018, 06:57

Originally Posted by Wolfshoon

That is another reason I'd go with the ALG, if for whatever reason the suppressor got stuck you could undo the screws that hold the handguard to the barrel nut and slide it out over the suppressor and have full access to the barrel and suppressor.

I am pretty sure the majority of rails out mount in a similar fashion.

Odin Works is another rail that will clear you suppressor. I am not a fan of how the rail mounts to the nut. It has slotted screw holes and if you are not careful you can have the rail mounted somewhat crooked.
https://www.odinworks.com/M_LOK_Forends_p/f-12-ml.htm

**Shooter45** · 02-27-2018, 09:28

I'm running the BAR2 rail from spikes on mine as another said already. While I have only shot it a few times with the suppressor off, I didn't notice any muzzle blast coming onto my hand because of the heat shield in place.

**mattiooo** · 02-27-2018, 12:22

My upper is a 300 AAC upper, and that apparently doesn't heat up the same way a 5.56 upper would. At least according to the folks on 300 Blackout Talk. School me if this is wrong too. I'm not planning on doing mag dumps on it. I'm not that good or that rich.

http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95375

**Shooter45** · 02-27-2018, 16:57

Originally Posted by mattiooo

My upper is a 300 AAC upper, and that apparently doesn't heat up the same way a 5.56 upper would. At least according to the folks on 300 Blackout Talk. School me if this is wrong too. I'm not planning on doing mag dumps on it. I'm not that good or that rich.

http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95375

You are correct on that, the 300 AAC definitely runs cooler than the 556. I've noticed I get no target distortion in relation to the suppressor becoming hot. With a 300 AAC I don't have to use a wrap on the suppressor. Not to say it doesn't get hot from extended shooting, but it does not heat up like any other rifle caliber I've shot before.

**Eric P** · 02-28-2018, 08:32

Just finished a 9mm build with the muffler 90% covered by a midwest industries hand guard. Need to take it to the range to see how hot it gets. It did have a kak extended can before the muffler was installed and the hand guard didn't get hot.

I did have to take the magpul angled for grip off and add washers to keep the screws from extending too far in and contacting the muffler.

**JohnnyEgo** · 02-28-2018, 09:52

I'm going to go in the other direction and say you will be just fine. Do a couple mag dumps, and the handguard will get pretty hot. But just shooting, even at a fairly rapid clip in 2-gun or 3-gun, isn't going to melt your hand guard off. And it will have plenty of time to cool between stages. I ran a 7.5" beast in 2-gun back in Florida for many years. I wore gloves, because it did get hot. But it was also Florida, so everything was hot and people often wore gloves. That's not to say bad things can't or don't happen, but life is full of calculated risks, and this one wouldn't keep me up at night in the least.

For cans with a direct attach option, you can always sub out an extended flash hider for the can. I do it with my 5" barrelled 9mm all the time.

**mattiooo** · 02-28-2018, 16:26

Originally Posted by Wolfshoon

Bowers Tactical usually has a bunch of different rails in stock and only carries quality components, so that would be a good hands on shopping comparison.

Went there today at lunch. First time there. Seems like nice guys. They tried to talk me out of doing it but were happy to sell me one if I insisted. They didn't have any in stock and would have to order one.

I hem and haw about simple decisions. It's really annoying. So now I'm back to square one.

I did stop at Ark yesterday and that was helpful. I got to look at some handguard lengths and decide where they would fall. Added the Strike Rail to the possible list. I thought 12" was what I was after, but I think 14" would be perfect, but nobody makes a 14" version. So I'm also leaning towards the Strike Rail because they have a 13.5".

Whatever you have, who doesn't want a couple more inches?

**Wolfshoon** · 02-28-2018, 18:18

Originally Posted by JohnnyEgo

I'm going to go in the other direction and say you will be just fine. Do a couple mag dumps, and the handguard will get pretty hot. But just shooting, even at a fairly rapid clip in 2-gun or 3-gun, isn't going to melt your hand guard off. And it will have plenty of time to cool between stages. I ran a 7.5" beast in 2-gun back in Florida for many years. I wore gloves, because it did get hot. But it was also Florida, so everything was hot and people often wore gloves. That's not to say bad things can't or don't happen, but life is full of calculated risks, and this one wouldn't keep me up at night in the least.

Wow, is that actually a can or Noveske k3 flame pig? What is the barrel length and is it 5.56? That is one of the shortest rifle caliber AR's I've seen, very compact package there, nice job.