SQUIB Round Input Needed

[Irving]

Looks like you can barely see a line, so I doubt it's heavy enough to cause you a problem. You really only need to crimp enough to remove the bell. I think you're fine. Others may chime in.

[powerstroke79]

Looks like you can barely see a line, so I doubt it's heavy enough to cause you a problem. You really only need to crimp enough to remove the bell. I think you're fine. Others may chime in.

Thanks for the input. From what I have read that is all the crimp is really intended to do.

[powerstroke79]

Pulled 10 more cases. Weigh each case with primer, bullet and charge then added them together. I was any where between 190gn-195gn total. Depending on the manufacturer of the brass. Extreme bullet did have a small variable weight. As for the charge was right at 5.6 avg (did have one @5.3gr)
So my thought is to weigh every round from that reloading lot and any round under 190gn or over 195gn I will pull and weigh.

[Irving]

I think that's a good idea, especially since you had two, instead of just one. What are you loading on? A lot easier to load a bunch without powder on a progressive than a turret or single stage.

[DenverGP]

with such a small charge weight, you would not be able to catch all the squib loads. In my small sampling of misc clean 9mm cases (with spent primers), I got a variation from about 58-66gr. So a case on the heavier side with no powder could end up heavier than a light case with correct powder.

Possibly if you sorted by case head stamps, then you'd see less variation, but I still wouldn't bet my gun or my hand on it.

edit: did some more weighing of cleaned cases.... sorted piles of cases that were over 64gr, and cases that were under 60gr.... a bunch of the heavy ones were Blazer, but then I found that one of the blazer cases identically marked to the others only weighed 59.4gr.

[powerstroke79]

I think that's a good idea, especially since you had two, instead of just one. What are you loading on? A lot easier to load a bunch without powder on a progressive than a turret or single stage.

Dillon square B

[powerstroke79]

with such a small charge weight, you would not be able to catch all the squib loads. In my small sampling of misc clean 9mm cases (with spent primers), I got a variation from about 58-66gr. So a case on the heavier side with no powder could end up heavier than a light case with correct powder.

Possibly if you sorted by case head stamps, then you'd see less variation, but I still wouldn't bet my gun or my hand on it.

edit: did some more weighing of cleaned cases.... sorted piles of cases that were over 64gr, and cases that were under 60gr.... a bunch of the heavy ones were Blazer, but then I found that one of the blazer cases identically marked to the others only weighed 59.4gr.

I understand what you are saying, out of 300rnd there where 50 or so that where under the 190gn. Out of 25 that i have pulled had one at 5.3gr and the rest where 5.6-5.7

[powerstroke79]

Forgot to include can not say if the first round had powder in it but I know there was powder in the second round. ( This is why i thought it was a under charge) I was very observant after the first. I did get 5 or 6 pieces of extruded powder that was a yellow color

[gta_spec]

I have a policy of looking at every case for a powder charge before setting the projectile. This may seem like an unnessassery step, but with a $15 endoscope camera, you can see powder in every case without too much hassle.

[20X11]

My rules to avoid squib pistol loads on a progressive press (MINE, MINE alone)
1) Always start with clean brass that has been dried for at least 2 weeks ( I wet tumble)
2) No beverages any where near the bench
3) No TV, No Radio, no distractions, wife put on notice I will not be disturbed
4) No company, helpers, or observers
5) No Cell Phone
6) Minimum of 5 station press so I have a powder cop die after powder drop and can seat and crimp on separate stations

Again MY rules...YMMV