Boulder AR-15 Ban

[def90]

Disappointed with Sam.. I've had a number of conversations with him as I worked for him for a summer and know him personally.. He seemed to have turned around on this.. My conversations with him were that others on the council were also changing their minds.

I believe I stated earlier in this thread that open carry was a bad protest idea and that the only thing that would come of it would be that the news would only picture the rednecks with guns.. Well that's what seems to have happened.. Thanks a lot.

[izzy]

I agree the open cary protest was a horrible idea.

[O2HeN2]

I believe I stated earlier in this thread that open carry was a bad protest idea and that the only thing that would come of it would be that the news would only picture the rednecks with guns.. Well that's what seems to have happened.. Thanks a lot.

Yes, we should have been good Rosas and sat in the back of the bus so we were invisible.

Someday you folks will figure out how bad your "let's be invidible" tactics are.

O2

[def90]

Yes, we should have been good Rosas and sat in the back of the bus so we were invisible.

Someday you folks will figure out how bad your "let's be invidible" tactics are.

O2

Well, your FUCK YOU protest turned a guy around that I believe I had turned against this law. All it did was give the Daily Camera something to report and cement the idea that gun owners are nut jobs.

A protest made up of a bunch of pro 2A people that look like normal average everyday people is going to make a bigger impact to the average person on the street that may or may not have a side in this issue. What could the Camera have said if there were no guns present? Well, they definitely would not have been able to write 3 articles now on the crazy gun nuts defying city law and council members would have seen that pro 2A people are no different than them.

[Irving]

Showing up at all makes people visible. Showing up with rifles completely forfeits whatever message people thought they wanted to share.

[O2HeN2]

Until guns are normalized we're playing defense. As long as we're on the defensive we're going to lose.

We can learn this lesson now or later, when it won't matter anymore.

So, sure, be a good boy and sit in the back of the bus, out of sight.

If this vote goes south, open carry will have had zero to do with it.

O2

[kidicarus13]

The only people that will benefit are the lawyers.

I've come to realize that this is a common thread throughout life.

[O2HeN2]

What could the Camera have said if there were no guns present?

They would have found something. On the order of 25 years ago I led an April 19th protest at the state capitol - back in the days of trying to make Colorado a "shall issue" state. Suggested dress code was suit and tie.

99.9% of the people showed up dressed in coat and tie. Press coverage? The 00.1% camo clad folks with shirts that said stuff like "Shoot 'em all, let God sort 'em out".

The press is our enemy. They will go to any length to cast us in a bad light. If not a single gun was visible they would have found something else to focus on.

O2

[Irving]

Until guns are normalized we're playing defense. As long as we're on the defensive we're going to lose.

We can learn this lesson now or later, when it won't matter anymore.

So, sure, be a good boy and sit in the back of the bus, out of sight.

If this vote goes south, open carry will have had zero to do with it.

O2

Carrying rifles around in town isn't normal, never has been, and never will be. Gays in the 90's told everyone how normal they were and how they were just like everyone else. Then swung their dicks from the tops of parade floats and walked around naked everywhere. Open carrying is the same thing. If you want to point out how normal something is, then act normal about it.

[izzy]

Yes, we should have been good Rosas and sat in the back of the bus so we were invisible.

Someday you folks will figure out how bad your "let's be invidible" tactics are.

O2

Showing up to protest in the first place is in fact being visible. Showing up and breaking laws with an open carry rifle is not a good way to make a point. Like was mentioned before this had a counterproductive effect in that it actually pushed people away from the point of the protest. There is a certain amount of tact to take into account when trying to prove a point.