How many of you guys are at home

[Gman]

They are paid (too much IMHO) to teach kids HOW to think, not WHAT to think.

Education is a life-long proposition. I had the advantage of teachers that taught us how to LEARN. If you can teach yourself new skills, there's no limit to what you can achieve. You're also not boxed into WHAT people tell you to think by being able to find information and make your own conclusions.

I've made a career in the Tech world by being one of the few that will actually RTFM.

[Delfuego]

I have no problem with teachers trying to protect their living.

Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner...

[OneGuy67]

The legislature does not determine salary; that is a local school board decision. The protest is about the possibility of them paying an additional 3% into their retirement as part of trying to right the upside down boat of their division of PERA as well as raising the retirement age to 60. Too many retirees and not enough people working and contributing is the main problem. You want to continue with a defined benefit program instead of a 401(k), then you need to have more skin in it. State employees had to, so can the teachers. They also want to raise awareness for Initiative 93 which would tax people who make $150k a year or more and businesses in order to add money to a fund for the schools.

[Batteriesnare]

According to that schedule, they would have to have ad masters degree to be making 61k after 3 years, plus continuing ed....

I have a college degree and have been at my job for 10 years.
A teacher in my district with a college degree after 3 years makes $61,723 base pay for a 196 day work year.
I have to work more days per year and make a little less.
I have a buddy, his wife is a teacher in Jeffco and after 10 years with a masters degree makes just about 85k.
I don’t think they have it to bad here.
http://www.bvsd.org/HR/Documents/Neg...20Schedule.pdf

[davsel]

I received an email from one of my daughter's teachers yesterday, stating what homework was expected to be completed during the school closure. I replied by telling the teacher to do her damn job - along with additional hostile words.

Some schools may also have to make up days this summer if they do not have enough days on the books to qualify for their Fed handouts.

Teachers have been crying for more pay since I was in elementary. Their pay has been going up, and graduate ability has been going down for as far back as I can remember.

The only thing I somewhat sympathize with them on, is the number of administrators making good money is always rising. However, they allow it through their unions, so not so much.

Abolish the Department of Education, and privatize the entire system. Remove the education regulations and taxes and parents can pay as they go.

[mindfold]

My only comment is, try selling a house in a crappy school district. The taxes you pay you get it back in value of your home. Yeah the current market is outrageous but during the downturn those homes in excellent districts were much easier to sell.

I also have no issue with teachers asking for more. Hell at least once a month, they have a “pass the hat” type fundraiser for the teacher aides. Schools don’t have funding for that. The aides are the ones on the playground and the bus drop off areas. I would rather have someone making a bit more money that I entrust with my children.


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[colorider]

One of my good buddies is a Jeffco teacher and has been for 20yrs. There is a lot about this walk out that is NOT in the news or has been publicized.

[Gman]

Well, enlighten us. Otherwise, they're having a public walk-out for some hidden agenda.

[OneGuy67]

Well, enlighten us. Otherwise, they're having a public walk-out for some hidden agenda.

I agree!

[Irving]

Most teachers push their own agenda.

Most everyone pushes their own agenda, all the time. If you take a gun fighting class, they aren't teaching you how to be a good student. They teach you their way. You learn what they want you to learn, and when you're done, do with that knowledge what you will. It's the same for every single thing I've ever learned, in every walk of life. It's pretty silly that people expect teachers to be any different.


I'm under the impression that there is bloat in the administrative side of the education department. I've always assumed that school districts get a ton of money, but that it isn't spent well. As a result, I automatically never "YES" for anything that pertains to giving more money to schools, or anything "for the children." That makes me a bit jaded and checked out, but change my win and you can get my vote. On the other hand, this school year I've regularly bought school supplies for my kid's teacher, and the other teachers that I've interacted. To the point where I would make a monthly round at the school and ask what teachers need, then bring it in for them. I was honest that I had additional motivations in the gesture, but still, I'd rather give money directly to where it can be used, instead of being filtered down through countless layers and is all but gone when it gets to where it needs to go.