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    One of the most annoying things whether it is slow moving or regular traffic flow. Been a couple of times when I have almost hit one and I do not want that on my conscience. Rules of the road should be the same whether you are in a vehicle, motorcycle or bicycle. It just makes it easier and safer fo everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wctriumph View Post
    that result from inattentive cage drivers.
    So you complain that "cage drivers" are inattentive with the current laws, and somehow allowing bikes to drive between vehicles where drivers are even less likely to see them would make them safer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I too have noticed more bikes splitting lanes ... I just attributed it to the influx of PRK refugees.
    This is my experience
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverGP View Post
    So you complain that "cage drivers" are inattentive with the current laws, and somehow allowing bikes to drive between vehicles where drivers are even less likely to see them would make them safer?

    Safer because lots of bikes end up getting rear ended or turned in front of because the turner is only looking at oncoming truck and not whats behind it.

    Even in my big truck people try to merge into me. Cant fix stupid. The safest place for a bike is the head of the pack in traffic. Better visibility of the rider, better ability for rider to avoid road hazards etc. In UK etc with more riders and year round, filtering cuts down on traffic.

    If legal, its not like you have to filter, riding theres times id want to, but others I recognize too risky due to whatever factors. Ie i wont change lanes right as we are coming up to a red as thats when people often make sudden changes without looking jockeying for position. You would then filter once traffic stopped. Young idiots despite law will do what you are seeing now and end up splattered. You dont see responsible use of it because its not legal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fitz19d View Post
    ...snip...
    Young idiots despite law will do what you are seeing now and end up splattered. You dont see responsible use of it because its not legal.
    And you won't see responsible use of it if it becomes legal. You will only see more of the same, yet worse.
    Right now it's primarily me-first, self-entitled, outta-my-way-I-own-the-road punks that are doing it. Legalize it, and every shit head on a bike will be doing it, thinking they own the road, as well.
    Will there be responsible use by some? Sure, just like there is a small percentage of responsible, albeit illegal, lane splitting happening now.
    Look up the specific CA statutes that govern it, and you'll find that it is also a highly abused practice there, where it has long been legal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post

    Disclaimer: I ride. I commute across town on I-70 a good part of the year on my motorcycle. I also hate pretty much EVERYONE else on the road, whether I am on two wheels or four..
    Me too, and yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    Me too, and yes.
    ^^^^^ And he's a LOT more hard core then me, for sure.
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    Well, I ride too but generally not during the work day.

    Motorcycling is fun for me and I want it to stay that way.

    I also hate pretty much EVERYONE else on the road, whether I am on two wheels or four..
    If you're hating on people while you ride you're doing it wrong. You gotta enjoy the ride, bro!
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    You gotta stay alive, to enjoy the ride.

    And people have no driving skills, etiquette, courtesy or common sense on the roads anymore. It seems that no one is teaching it to them anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    Well, I ride too but generally not during the work day.

    Motorcycling is fun for me and I want it to stay that way.



    If you're hating on people while you ride you're doing it wrong. You gotta enjoy the ride, bro!
    It's hard to enjoy the ride when your head is moving like Linda Blairs. Trying to see who's about to hit their brakes, cross 3 lanes BECAUSE THAT'S MY EXIT AND I'M GOING



    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    You gotta stay alive, to enjoy the ride.


    And people have no driving skills, etiquette, courtesy or common sense on the roads anymore. It seems that no one is teaching it to them anymore.

    It's been happening a while. I only wore a helmet in inclement weather and during the winter as road conditions permitted, until 15-18 years ago , . Basically a year round rider here.
    People in ft collins, along 25 and south to the metro area, as they became even worse on the road, i went from part time to full time skid lid and riding gear.
    Due to outside forces i stopped riding 8 yrs ago. At this point in time IF i decided to get back on 2 wheels, it would not happen in this state. Or any other heavily populated one.


    I rarely split lanes since i rode baggers and other touring bikes. If an opening presented itself, my goal was to always be ahead of everyone else.
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