Opinions on Pistol Caliber carbines

[kidicarus13]

I think it's a faux pas if you shoulder pistol braced gun at a match. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here.

Inquiring minds want to know if this is true.

[DOC]

Inquiring minds want to know if this is true.

Only if you win.

[Great-Kazoo]

I think it's a faux pas if you shoulder pistol braced gun at a match. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here.

Inquiring minds want to know if this is true.

Untrue, as the ATF passed down another revision regarding shouldering of a brace. How those running the match fell is another story. Some don't care, others are worse than an anti gun neighbor.


Regarding the OP's inquiry.

Using the multitude of spare AR parts i've built more than 1 9mm PCC for under the $4-500 range. All ran fine and performed as expected, using glock mags. My latest 16" build was off a NFA glock mag lower and binary trigger, just because.

With that said, the newest addition was the Ruger 9m PCC takedown w/ threaded bbl. Why one ask? Mainly because it's actually CA compliant (no e vel AR type features) so it's now my go to for CA trips, providing i pack the 10 rd G26 mags.

Performance wise, ANY round i loaded worked w/out issue from ANY mag used. Including those pre 2013 Korean / KCI mags. Disclosure: i replaced the weak kci springs with factory glocks, as they would give me issues with FTFeed in the AR pcc's. Side x side the noticeable difference in spring height was clear , like an inch.

Using the factory irons both johnny ego and myself, were consistently doing 1/2 dollar sized 25 yd groups off hand, down to a quarter sized ones off the bench. Same for RDS operation.

Recoil was barely noticeable, shouldering a basic rifle config PCC while not an AR was comfortable, as well as cheek weld. When i get time i will install a 45 deg offset mount for the RDS so i can run both irons and rds.

POI shift when running suppressed was noticeable, but not anything that wasn't resolved with a few tweaks of the rds adjusters. IMO for the money, unless it must be an AR platform PCC, spend 1/2 the money on the Ruger Takedown 9mm PCC, spend the rest on ammo, or a suppressor.

Outside the JRC PCC carbines which are also very nice for the money. The ruger, like the JRC, is the only other (to my knowledge) at this time PCC that allows you to operate it as a right or left hand shooter, with simple change to the other side of the charging handle.
The ruger however allows mag release r-l change with gen 4 mags as well. This is part of the price unlike AR style PCC's where any option other than a right hand shooter will run some $$ As for the Kriss, heavy, bulky over priced unit. IMO lousey customer service based on my interaction a few years back.
YMMV