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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfshoon View Post
    I'm all for fixing roads, but that tactic has been shoved on me too many times before where you put the $ towards something else. I want accountability for current funds before you even ask me for more.
    And this is why I continue to vote NO on EVERY new tax increase request. Never seems to matter though... We've got too many ignorant and emotionally driven masses and too many tax,tax, and tax some more Dems who always override my vote. That doesn't stop me from trying though.
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    The caldera one, Fix our Damn Roads, is the one I would vote for. No new taxes, just forces the state spend recent revenue increases on roads, not pet projects.

    Not ideal since money is going to bankers in the firm of bond payments snd less is being spent on the roads.

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    Any bets on how much the I-70 debacle is going to be over budget?

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    ...or over time. T rex was a joke when it was started, and didn't come close to fixing any problems when it was finished.

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    Surprised it wasnt a subaru outback blocking up the express lane.

    I work downtown a day or two a week and use the express lanes. Not happy about them but they usually do save me time. Fucking annoying as shit though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mahabali View Post
    a subaru outback ... Fuck ... annoying as shit
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    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Any bets on how much the I-70 debacle is going to be over budget?
    Budget: 1.2B, My prediction 6B

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    Might as well just hire the guys that did the new VA hospital in Denver to do these road construction projects. After all, that went swimmingly; eh?

    The .gov projects need to be written to meet specific standards, for specific costs (agreed up front in the bidding/contract award) withing a specific period of time. Any time or cost overruns are the problem of the contract awardee, NOT the .gov. Time overruns along will failure to meet established standards all need to incur a significant financial penalty.

    If you keep giving a panhandler money, he'll keep coming back for more. If the .gov keeps allowing this sort of shit and screwing over of the citizens, these companies (and others to follow) will continue to keep pulling these shenanigans because it's a cash cow for them. This sort of behavior isn't just accepted anymore, it's encouraged. It needs to stop. Do you know why it will never stop? Because there are an awful lot of politicians/bureaucrats also getting rich from these deeds.

    ETA: Some will say that this attitude will either bankrupt many of the companies providing these services or they'll just refuse to participate in the system. Good. If a company can't figure out how to effectively and efficiently provide the service they're in business to provide then they need to no longer be in business. There will always be someone willing to do the right thing the right way - they just need the criminals to get out of the way so they can get their chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Might as well just hire the guys that did the new VA hospital in Denver to do these road construction projects. After all, that went swimmingly; eh?

    The .gov projects need to be written to meet specific standards, for specific costs (agreed up front in the bidding/contract award) withing a specific period of time. Any time or cost overruns are the problem of the contract awardee, NOT the .gov. Time overruns along will failure to meet established standards all need to incur a significant financial penalty.

    If you keep giving a panhandler money, he'll keep coming back for more. If the .gov keeps allowing this sort of shit and screwing over of the citizens, these companies (and others to follow) will continue to keep pulling these shenanigans because it's a cash cow for them. This sort of behavior isn't just accepted anymore, it's encouraged. It needs to stop. Do you know why it will never stop? Because there are an awful lot of politicians/bureaucrats also getting rich from these deeds.

    ETA: Some will say that this attitude will either bankrupt many of the companies providing these services or they'll just refuse to participate in the system. Good. If a company can't figure out how to effectively and efficiently provide the service they're in business to provide then they need to no longer be in business. There will always be someone willing to do the right thing the right way - they just need the criminals to get out of the way so they can get their chance.
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    In China, they just execute these guys for defrauding the government. In North Korea, they feed you to hungry dogs or shoot you with antiaircraft gun. In the USA, they just give them more money to get it done.
    This is how the ruling political party gets financial donations, so they can play golf and travel to country clubs, in a jumbo jet. In the meantime, the FBI will blame the Russians. The Russians fooled us all with Facebook and hookers. As long as ICE will let me get my medications from Mexico, I won't worry about the VA.
    The good news in Pueblo, is 50 public schools have had their drinking fountains turned off because of lead in the water. The sad part, is that all this shit is true.

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