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    Quote Originally Posted by DireWolf View Post
    Correct me if this is wrong, but even if she was telling the flat truth (while not impossible, is about as unlikely as anything I can think of), is there any scenario where MCPD would spend any time/resources investigating something which I would imagine has far exceeded the SOL (whatever that is in this instance)? I wouldn't think so...
    Well the story has changed a bit.



    At first it was "attempted rape" which is a non-crime. Covering her mouth (as she claimed) is simple assault and I think SOL has run out.

    Now she says he groped her, over her clothes, as he was covering her mouth and attempting to undress her.

    So that is sexual assault. Speculation on the socials is that Maryland has no SOL on sex assault. I don't have a link.

    Any investigation is unlikely to produce any concrete evidence as the accuser will not name a location/date/time, so what can investigators find after 35 years? The witnesses (now two) of them saying this never happened have been already dismissed by #MeToo. The risk to the accuser is that she claims a location/date that doesn't work which is why they want the FBI (DoJ) in first and then she will testify once she can get her story to align.

    It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they have a person(s) in the FBI who is ready to leak time windows/locations that can be used.
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    Attempted rape is sexual battery and Maryland has no statute of limitations on most sexual assault crimes.

    Most departments would first need a report filed containing the basic allegations with the who, what, where, how’s filled in. Then a supervisor for the detectives reviews it for “solvability” which in this case would be pretty low.

    I just worked a ten year old rape allegation with an east coast city police sex crimes detective. In the end the prosecutor’s office politely declined to file charges in the case. Something about no possibility of obtaining a conviction given the facts we could prove.

    No one is suggesting that Ms Ford’s allegations be used to bring criminal charges. I believe the Democrats who are funding and otherwise supporting her would be satisfied with destroying Judge Kavanaugh’s reputation and any chance of him becoming a justice on the Supreme Court. This is the revenge for Merrick Garland’s nomination never being considered. When you think progressives remember “the truth is not in them.” They don’t care about process, only results. If millions need to die for them to achieve their idea of utopia, so be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    Attempted rape is sexual battery and Maryland has no statute of limitations on most sexual assault crimes.

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    Legally, yes. (I think morally too)

    But the goalposts in 2018 do not require unwanted physical contact to be "attempted rape." Making out and touching without explicit consent = rape. Along with... "Stare Rape," regret sex rape (consent revoked after act), and some feminists even claim all PIV (Penis In Vagina) to be rape because the man is in a position of power even if the woman freely consents.

    I hate to keep being that guy, but the role of #MeToo is being completely downplayed. #MeToo is extralegal. People need to start understanding this. Easy to dismiss as PC bullshit and then it gets used against you or your kid, or used to shape the makeup of the highest court!

    And as you point out, they demand the impossible. But it will yield info that they can use to strengthen her testimony.

    Personally, I'm fine with the investigation; FBI or MD. But she should be under oath and on the record first.


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    No one is suggesting that Ms Ford’s allegations be used to bring criminal charges. I believe the Democrats who are funding and otherwise supporting her would be satisfied with destroying Judge Kavanaugh’s reputation and any chance of him becoming a justice on the Supreme Court. This is the revenge for Merrick Garland’s nomination never being considered. When you think progressives remember “the truth is not in them.” They don’t care about process, only results. If millions need to die for them to achieve their idea of utopia, so be it.
    BOOM! Agree 100%.

    If Trump dropped the Kavanaugh nomination there wouldn't be a single call for justice in Ford's name.
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    We need to judge Brett Kavanaugh, not just by what he may or may not have done, but how he treats a woman’s pain. And that is something I’m going to be paying attention to on Monday. How does he respond to what’s happening. Whether or not he agrees that this happened with her, does he take her pain seriously? Do the people interrogating her pain take her pain seriously? Now, I’ll give you a spoiler alert, I don’t think Brett Kavanaugh takes women’s pain very seriously, and I know that because of the decisions he’s made as a judge.
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    She, of course, is under no obligation to consider the pain inflicted on Kavanaugh or his family.

    And if the pain isn't genuine? Doesn't matter. Kavanaugh is guilty.
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    Grassley has today offered to send staffers to Ford in CA to get her testimony in light of claims of threats being made. $~200K has been raised for her security costs and the family has left their Palo Alto home for their Santa Cruz beach house. Life is tough when you have to leave for your beach house, or so I've read.

    There is no excuse for not testifying. For the Senate to allow this to be held up by a (living) party who is able and refuses to testify is relatively unprecedented. I can't recall a single case of it. Even invoking 5A requires an appearance.

    Lots of pressure to start an FBI investigation but still not willing to do an interview with the FBI either.

    This whole thing still rests on one #MeToo attorney and a letter from Feinstein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    f Trump dropped the Kavanaugh nomination there wouldn't be a single call for justice in Ford's name.
    And it doesn't matter who he picks to replace Kavanaugh, they would get the exact same treatment (just like it doesn't matter what Republican won in 2016 they would still be "literally Hitler").

    There is no rational or reasonable way to deal with the modern Democrat party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    And it doesn't matter who he picks to replace Kavanaugh, they would get the exact same treatment (just like it doesn't matter what Republican won in 2016 they would still be "literally Hitler").

    There is no rational or reasonable way to deal with the modern Democrat party.
    I think you and cstone are absolutely right on this point!

    Trump's win meant a more Conservative Court and they are doing everything the can, short of violence, to stop it.

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    Kavanaugh accuser Christine Ford opens door to testifying next week

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...next-week.html

    According to an email sent by her attorney Debra Katz and first obtained by The New York Times, Ford would appear as long as senators provide “terms that are fair and which ensure her safety." Fox News has also obtained the email.

    “As you are aware, she has been receiving death threats, which have been reported to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and she and her family have been forced out of their home,” the email continued. “She wishes to testify, provided that we can agree on terms that are fair and which ensure her safety.”

    A Monday hearing still appears unlikely, though.

    In the letter Thursday, Ford's attorney wrote that it “is not possible" for Ford to testify on Monday. She added that "the Committee’s insistence that it occur then is arbitrary in any event.”
    Of course it's arbitrary on an 11th hour shenanigan! Even so, testifying before the Senate isn't like making dinner reservations.

    It's not clear if Grassley will hold to his Monday deadline or not.


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    Ford taps Obama, Clinton alum to navigate Senate hearing

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    Seidman, now a senior principal at TSD Communications, confirmed her role in an interview with Politico.

    Seidman worked as Joe Biden’s communication’s director during the 2008 general presidential election campaign after Biden was picked as Barack Obama’s running mate. She also assisted in guiding Sonia Sotomayor’s confirmation to the Supreme Court.

    Before then, Seidman was a deputy communications director in the Clinton White House.

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    “This feels more like a Democratic super PAC than a legal effort to get at the truth,” a senior Republican official told Politico.
    Seems legit.

    And just where is all this money coming from?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    And it doesn't matter who he picks to replace Kavanaugh, they would get the exact same treatment (just like it doesn't matter what Republican won in 2016 they would still be "literally Hitler").

    There is no rational or reasonable way to deal with the modern Democrat party.
    Like i said, If he nominated Barack Obama they'd still fight it
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    I don't think this has anything to do with revenge re: Garland. Or maybe that aspect is just seen as a fringe benefit.

    I think this is about abortion. Simple as that.

    Now...to those of you who say democrats and republicans are the same, look at democrat behavior since Trump was elected, including this perversion of our government and Constitutional process, and tell me you still believe that.
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    Hmm, 10am EST has passed.
    That was the deadline for Ford.
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