This state is hosed

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This is a depressing thread. I don't like what is happening one bit. I don't know what to do about it.

[Irving]

This is a depressing thread. I don't like what is happening one bit. I don't know what to do about it.

If you view the world through a narrow enough window, anything can seem terrible. Broaden your perspective.

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At some point I expect the Feds to go full retard and it won't matter where you live. They'll dictate your existence. The Feds wiped their collective butts with the Constitution and the states have allowed the usurpation of their sovereignty decades ago.

...and for some reason, about 1/2 the population seems to want it that way.

SMH

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They need it that way. Complete control is the only way to efficiently allocate resources (to good Comrades) and prevent the bad people from having any power to pushback against social, economic, and racial justice.

I think more and more people are waking up to the bad choice that lies ahead.

[ben4372]

...and for some reason, about 1/2 the population seems to want it that way.

Funny. Isn't half about the population that works for the government. Then you have all the businesses that get much money from government contracts. The entitlement people seem to want it too. Now that I thought about it. I'm gonna say 3/4 of the people want it.

Sounds crazy but what if this is AI's first move? That would be awesome.

[roberth]

They need it that way. Complete control is the only way to efficiently allocate resources (to good Comrades) and prevent the bad people from having any power to pushback against social, economic, and racial justice.

I think more and more people are waking up to the bad choice that lies ahead.

Yes, they need it that way because of their horribly flawed education at the hands of the federal government. They can't get good jobs and they think they're entitled to our paychecks.

I think more and more people are waking up to the bad choice that lies ahead.

The CO, FL, AZ, MT, and US House of Representative elections certainly do not reflect this.

[Bailey Guns]

I don't understand the mentality that assumes someone moves because they're running from something. At all.

In our case we were running towards something: better economic opportunities, higher standard of living, a better environment in terms of congestion and traffic, better retirement options, less government intrusion into or lives and a political atmosphere that more closely mirrors our beliefs.

In Colorado, what and how are you really gonna fight the progressive infection? Sure, you can vote and lobby in the statehouse...we know how far that got us in 2013. But what else are you going to do? Sorry, but that's a little too cliche for me to really take seriously.

ID may turn blue...eventually. But with the population and demographics its gonna be a long, long time. This state cant really be compared to AZ or TX. In the meantime I can live a comfortable life in a far better environment.

I don't begrudge anyone wanting to do something to better their situation. If that means staying where you are, so be it. If it means moving, that's entirely up to you.

[CS1983]

I don't understand the mentality that assumes someone moves because they're running from something. At all.

In our case we were running towards something: better economic opportunities, higher standard of living, a better environment in terms of congestion and traffic, better retirement options, less government intrusion into or lives and a political atmosphere that more closely mirrors our beliefs.

In Colorado, what and how are you really gonna fight the progressive infection? Sure, you can vote and lobby in the statehouse...we know how far that got us in 2013. But what else are you going to do? Sorry, but that's a little too cliche for me to really take seriously.

ID may turn blue...eventually. But with the population and demographics its gonna be a long, long time. This state cant really be compared to AZ or TX. In the meantime I can live a comfortable life in a far better environment.

I don't begrudge anyone wanting to do something to better their situation. If that means staying where you are, so be it. If it means moving, that's entirely up to you.

+1 exactly.

One reason we are looking so hard at Oklahoma is we can get places with 10-20 acres, a good house, and still end up with a lower mortgage.

Even if we move and I take a pay cut, this remains a viable option.

Currently, we are priced out of our own neighborhood if we were to sell here and then buy within COS. All the options for land are on the plains, and they are usually a modular (which VA won't finance), and don't have nearly the features of what we see in Oklahoma (nice outbuildings, creek through property, etc.). Plus, in OK, you can hunt on your own land. No stupid GMU rigmarole like in CO.

[Great-Kazoo]

North Tucson

APS (AZ) utility is proud of their electric rates. Tucson all the way up to almost the black canyon area stays wayyy too hot in the summer for us. This areas weather is (today ) is like a brisk CO fall with temps in the mid 60's Hottest we've seen it the last two years , between visiting and making the move, is high 90's daytime, 60's at night. Unless there's employment opportunities not sure why people look at tucson.

You guys are kidding yourselves if you don't think that AZ is right in the cross hairs of the various gun control and other leftist groups.

Every state is in the cross hairs, just depends how serious or apathetic the voters are. One is kidding them self if they believe their state or county isn't headed left of center, eventually. The leftist plague is well organized, well financed and well off their rocker.

I don't understand the mentality that assumes someone moves because they're running from something. At all.

In our case we were running towards something: better economic opportunities, higher standard of living, a better environment in terms of congestion and traffic, better retirement options, less government intrusion into or lives and a political atmosphere that more closely mirrors our beliefs.

In the meantime I can live a comfortable life in a far better environment.

I don't begrudge anyone wanting to do something to better their situation. If that means staying where you are, so be it. If it means moving, that's entirely up to you.

That's how & why we ended up in n. central AZ. The spouse said after 45 yrs, she was done shoveling snow. That took ID off the map, but still doesn't prevent us from having a summer place up there. Family has a lot of land up in McCall area, til then we're here.

[GeorgeandSugar]

+1 exactly.

One reason we are looking so hard at Oklahoma is we can get places with 10-20 acres, a good house, and still end up with a lower mortgage.

Even if we move and I take a pay cut, this remains a viable option.

Currently, we are priced out of our own neighborhood if we were to sell here and then buy within COS. All the options for land are on the plains, and they are usually a modular (which VA won't finance), and don't have nearly the features of what we see in Oklahoma (nice outbuildings, creek through property, etc.). Plus, in OK, you can hunt on your own land. No stupid GMU rigmarole like in CO.

Where in OK are you considering? I've looked only with a passing thought and that was in the panhandle area.


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[Bailey Guns]

I almost bought a HUGE house in OK (don't remember exactly where) back in the early 80s when I was still in the military. My in-laws at the time owned an oil field equipment leasing business down there and we were visiting. We found this house, over 5000 sq ft, brick, very nice, detached 4 car garage on about 40 acres if I recall correctly that was listed for some ridiculous price like $38,000. Gives you an idea of how low the energy business got at the time. I don't know if it's good or bad that I didn't buy it. Wish I could find something like that now.