Denver decriminalizes mushrooms!

[JohnnyDrama]

I've never tried mushrooms. For that matter, I don't even like mushrooms on my pizza. However, I've been around many people who have. My take-away is that they were very happy they didn't end the evening puking. It seemed to be the natural course of things.


What I'm wondering is, are the pot stores going to start selling 'shrooms now?

[Irving]

No, this sounds like it is just a decriminalization of possession. There is nothing set-up for legal distribution.

[Great-Kazoo]

Lets be intellectually honest here. Responsible adults usually make responsible choices...

You can disapprove but does that mean it should be illegal?

Agree.

If one were to insert another word, like gun for instance. the conversation would change.


Look no farther than CA after the brief, but effective, mag limit ban was temporarily rescinded . What they sell to CA, 1/2 million mags or less?

[JohnnyEgo]

I guess my post-retirement plan to take a massive shot of LSD (or stamp, or pill, or whatever form it comes in, I'm a little hazy on the subject) to ward off thanataphobia just took another step towards reality!

[Ramsker]

No, this sounds like it is just a decriminalization of possession. There is nothing set-up for legal distribution.

I don't think it actually decrminalizes anything . . . it just sets an ordinance that says it should be an extremely low priority for police. Still a felony, but the cops aren't encouraged to enforce it?

[Irving]

I don't think it actually decrminalizes anything . . . it just sets an ordinance that says it should be an extremely low priority for police. Still a felony, but the cops aren't encouraged to enforce it?

Yep, looks like it.

As written, I-301 directs police via ordinance to treat enforcement of laws against possession of psilocybin mushrooms as their lowest priority.
It’s similar to decriminalization measures approved by Denver voters for marijuana years before Colorado’s Amendment 64 won statewide approval.

“Our victory here is a clear signal to the rest of the country that we’re ready for a broader conversation around psilocybin and its potential benefits,” said Matthews, a 33-year-old stay-at-home dad.

Psychedelic mushrooms still would remain illegal to buy, sell or possess, with the latter crime a felony that carries a potential punishment of up to a year in prison and a fine. But Initiative 301 backers hope to lower the risk users face of getting caught with mushrooms.

[Gman]

Agree.

If one were to insert another word, like gun for instance. the conversation would change.

Not from my perspective. A gun is a tool and has a number of empirical good uses. Misuse becomes the issue.

I'd at least expect to hear the argument that drugs have value in 'the arts', but I think that's also B.S.

I'm a libertarian, but I also understand that the model would have a tendency toward anarchy if fully implemented. Intoxicants have a long history of being societally destructive (opium dens for example). How much dependency, lack of productivity, crime, and disability entitlements can taxpayers be expected to support?

[Skip]

Agree.

If one were to insert another word, like gun for instance. the conversation would change.


Look no farther than CA after the brief, but effective, mag limit ban was temporarily rescinded . What they sell to CA, 1/2 million mags or less?

Well except that my gun ownership costs others nothing. Actually a collective benefit.

More chemical recreation will cost what?

If people generally make good choices why is my paycheck taxed to fund “safety nets” for when they don’t?

[Irving]

Not from my perspective. A gun is a tool and has a number of empirical good uses. Misuse becomes the issue.

I'd at least expect to hear the argument that drugs have value in 'the arts', but I think that's also B.S.

I'm a libertarian, but I also understand that the model would have a tendency toward anarchy if fully implemented. Intoxicants have a long history of being societally destructive (opium dens for example). How much dependency, lack of productivity, crime, and disability entitlements can taxpayers be expected to support?

If you believe at all in what you said in red, then you'd be lobbying HARD against legal alcohol. Why aren't you?

As to your comment in blue, not every drug does the same thing, and not every person responds to drugs the same way. I'd use the example of me hearing people describing what certain alcohol does to them, i.e. "Vodka makes me horny," or "tequila makes me wanna fight!" I've never personally experienced any different types of drunks between alcohol, but that doesn't mean others don't.

For those interested, here is a list of studies around psilocybin: https://maps.org/search-results?sear...archphrase=all
EDIT: Looks like a compilation of just psychedelic things, but a lot on the list look like studies.

I'm interested in the medical stuff, and there are great arguments to be made from the medical usage perspective, but I don't like it as an end all be all argument because I don't think things need to have a medical benefit to justify their existence or legality. I don't want to imagine a world without roller blades and Doritos.

[Irving]

If you're putting mushrooms in the same basket as heroine or PCP or meth, you probably shouldn't be in the conversation.

I don't want to sound like a dick and exclude people from the conversation. I'm just trying to say that if we're going to discuss, let's not draw conclusions that aren't there. All drugs are different, so let's not get them confused.