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    Skip can you provide examples of what you're talking about just so we're all clear where you're coming from?
    Can you differentiate issues you see arising from this from other ways in which society already provides for people who get themselves into trouble with whatever choices they are making that you do find acceptable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Skip can you provide examples of what you're talking about just so we're all clear where you're coming from?
    Can you differentiate issues you see arising from this from other ways in which society already provides for people who get themselves into trouble with whatever choices they are making that you do find acceptable?
    I'm not standing on anyone's shoulder looking over his/her life to evaluate the role drugs have had in bad choices. But if I am forced to fund the safety nets for those who "can't" then I am held accountable for those choices and have an interest* in the role drugs have had. A lot of effort goes into to making sure I can't quote you a statistic. I'm not even entitled to know how my paycheck is being spent and who specifically is benefitting.

    There are no behavior disqualifiers for these safety nets/programs. If a person can vote and has a perceived need, I pay. I pay directly (taxes) and indirectly (healthcare costs, cost of living).

    Also not a day going by without a group saying they "can't" do something; housing, healthcare, student loans, etc... and need more of my paycheck. Isn't it odd people have plenty of money for drugs and can't do the things so many of us have had to do in life?


    *I never wanted that interest, it was forced on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post

    Also not a day going by without a group saying they "can't" do something; housing, healthcare, student loans, etc... and need more of my paycheck. Isn't it odd people have plenty of money for drugs and can't do the things so many of us have had to do in life?


    *I never wanted that interest, it was forced on me.
    This is endlessly frustrating and it's why I don't give money to people who ask me on the street.

    Perhaps the most free market approach would be for people to play No Pass Line of the drug market and take out life insurance policies on individuals they've identified as "at risk" drug users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    This is endlessly frustrating and it's why I don't give money to people who ask me on the street.

    Perhaps the most free market approach would be for people to play No Pass Line of the drug market and take out life insurance policies on individuals they've identified as "at risk" drug users.
    I would take no joy/profit in the bad things people do to themselves. I just want to be able to refuse to pay for any of it. And I don't know how that insurance model would even work... Who is paying the premiums? That would be expensive.

    After I got married and got back on the KLR I took out a term life policy. It's a risk and I want my family taken care of. Very similar. If I turn into a speedbump, yeah, my family is going to have needs they couldn't meet without my planning. But I pay that premium.

    I wouldn't demand access to your paycheck, or say my family gets any part of your paycheck, should I realize a risk that I voluntarily assumed.
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