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    Being a vet while I do not agree with the ruling I do understand where it came from. That said they need to compose the law so it does not interfere with ones 1st amendment rights.
    I see you running, tell me what your running from

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    If this had passed, would people still be aloud to make war movies and cop movies?
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    The govt can lie to its citizens, as in the case of police interrogating a suspect, so it makes sense that a citizen can lie as well and be protected. This guy may be a vile piece of shit, but he has that right.

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    Why worry? CRAP we got an imposter c-n-c,a few communisttype senators.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    he needs a very bad ass kicking every day from now on. he needs the pain to be fresh in his mind everyday, so he understands the difference between saying you are something like a cop or fireman, and a real hero.
    +1 I Soooo agree with that statement. I earned what I claim (not that I ever acturally talk about any of it) and I've got documentation to prove it.

    For someone to falsely claim honors they never earned is FRAUD pure and simple.

    Quote Originally Posted by High Altitude View Post
    So does this mean anybody can imposter a veteran?????

    WTF???
    Good question. Can an enlisted person wear an officers uniform and claim 1st amendment protection? Can a person claim to be a police officer and not be charged with impersonating a police officer?

    I understand the potential implications of this ruling and what it would have meant had it not gone this way, but I do believe that certain protections against "stolen valor" should be in place.

    Quote Originally Posted by mutt View Post
    The govt can lie to its citizens, as in the case of police interrogating a suspect, so it makes sense that a citizen can lie as well and be protected. This guy may be a vile piece of shit, but he has that right.
    Something tells me that "making a false official statement" is still a convictable offense. I know that *I* won't be the one to test this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Something tells me that "making a false official statement" is still a convictable offense. I know that *I* won't be the one to test this.
    Making a false official statement and lying to a cop are two totally different things. You can lie to a cop all you want and it's not illegal. Cops can lie in order to get you to incriminate yourself and it's legal. In the end your best bet is say nothing to the police until you have a lawyer, but that's taking this thread way off course.

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    I forgot to mention I'm really Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr.

    No, really I am. Seriously. I've got this here Desert Storm ribbon to prove it.


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    I can only hope that the Attorney General's office will appeal it to the 10th Circuit. That court has been pretty reasonable in its determinations.

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    "Why Hell Son, I'm Better 'n Any veteran Out there. I fought in Every war since the battle of Concord!
    Stormed the beach at Normandy by Myself!
    See, lookat em ribbons!"
    /joke


    Now, I Can Honestly understand slight "embellishments" of Old men telling war stories.
    But some of that shit pisses me right the Fuck off.
    There are REAL Veterans begging for handouts on the streets and Homeless.
    Then you have some Jackwagon actor goes to a Military surplus and winds up on the goddamned news eating at the capital or some fancy restaurant Getting Pampered and Bombarded with gifts by PR Hungry Politicians and the only shells he's seen had an oyster in them.

    I'm no Gungho Rambo with any Silver stars or anything but I'll be fucked with a pudding-pop if I Sit around and let some jerkoff lie about shit that people I loved and served with died over.


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    Well said. I especially loved this part:

    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    I'm no Gungho Rambo with any Silver stars or anything but I'll be fucked with a pudding-pop if I Sit around and let some jerkoff lie about shit that people I loved and served with died over.


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    "f*ched with a pudding pop"? That's classic!
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