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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I was listening to an excellent podcast today with an angle investor/entrepreneur who gave an excellent response to Andrew Yang's (and other's) proposal of Universal Basic Income, and it got me thinking about this very subject. People talk and talk about how free market economies aren't working, all while miss characterizing how they work (if you are winning, it means some one else must be losing), yet they always want to go to some sort of communism or socialism that has never worked. The logic doesn't follow. Free market economies have brought the most prosperity the world has ever known. They aren't perfect, but they certainly aren't broken. Communism/Socialism ONLY and ALWAYS brings suffering, and ultimately death, to the masses and has NEVER worked, yet people think we should abandon something that does work for something that doesn't.
    They just simply can't grasp that capitalism brings EVERYONE up and along for the ride. Or maybe they do and are just fukn Pinko Commies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    They just simply can't grasp that capitalism brings EVERYONE up and along for the ride. Or maybe they do and are just fukn Pinko Commies.
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    The progressive / modern liberal philosophy is almost premised on an assumption that nothing is inherently good or bad, or right or wrong (initially), rather everything that is bad is only so because it is exploited by everything that is good. And everything that is good is only so because it has exploited something, making it "bad". Boil down anyway.., My keyboaardd is getting gay so I i can't elaborate too much.

    Criminals are only criminal because someone "abused" them or they suffered "unfair hardships". It's not because some people are born sociopathic or are just evil shits.
    Good people don't exist, e.g. if you're a successful white individual, it's not because of any hard work or dedication, it's only because of your "white privilege".
    Capitalism is only apparently successful because it *MUST* be exploiting something. It's not possible to be successful without exploitation in this mindset.

    It's really a nearly indescribable, deep seated pillar of the modern liberal/progressive though process. It doesn't desire equal success, it desires equal failure to be pleased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I was listening to an excellent podcast today with an angle investor/entrepreneur who gave an excellent response to Andrew Yang's (and other's) proposal of Universal Basic Income, and it got me thinking about this very subject. People talk and talk about how free market economies aren't working, all while miss characterizing how they work (if you are winning, it means some one else must be losing), yet they always want to go to some sort of communism or socialism that has never worked. The logic doesn't follow. Free market economies have brought the most prosperity the world has ever known. They aren't perfect, but they certainly aren't broken. Communism/Socialism ONLY and ALWAYS brings suffering, and ultimately death, to the masses and has NEVER worked, yet people think we should abandon something that does work for something that doesn't.
    Couldn't have said it better myself Stu.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    That right there is the face and voice of the enemy. She even admits to it..."...by any means necessary." And yet there are those who don't hear what she's saying, even though she's crystal clear in what she's proposing. That's just scary there are those so ignorant that they can't recognize what this woman is proposing.
    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Let her last sentence sink in.

    "By any means necessary"


    I'm sure Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro and Eichmann uttered those same words......
    Ultimately, THIS is why they want everyone disarmed. They know the masses will not go quietly into the darkness that is socialism/communism and to implement their goals "by any means necessary" will require force. They must have the monopoly on force to achieve their goals.


    Quote Originally Posted by OxArt View Post
    It's really a nearly indescribable, deep seated pillar of the modern liberal/progressive though process. It doesn't desire equal success, it desires equal failure to be pleased.
    Agreed. Communism & Socialism fail because you take away all incentive to produce. If you are forced to give up the fruit of your labor to someone who refuses to produce for themselves you lose your incentive - and stop producing yourself. Now, EVERYONE fails and production ceases. These people believe that someone only succeeds because they exploit others so they take from those producers. They fail to see that THIS exploits those willing to invest their resources (labor, money, time, etc).

    Opportunity exists within a capitalist, but that doesn't automatically translate to success. Success is only achieve through hard work (lots of it), good decisions and a bit of luck (right place, right time, right ideas for the moment...).

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    Who is John Galt...


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    Quote Originally Posted by sellersm View Post
    Who is John Galt...


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    I'm sure she would be delighted to usher many into her new America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sellersm View Post
    Who is John Galt...
    John Galt was a pussy ... who we need is Ragnar Danesgold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Lefties think economics is a zero-sum game. A rising tide lifts all boats.
    Even our poor people have immediate access to more knowledge than any President did prior to this century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Even our poor people have immediate access to more knowledge than any President did prior to this century.
    I was going to mention our poor...and deleted it, but here goes anyway. Even our poor are 'wealthy' in global terms.
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