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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT951 View Post
    How do you know which one he was?
    His weapon was holstered and his demeanor was calm. Ergo, not a threat.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
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    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Yet so many on this forum will jump on the "sue them!" bandwagon when there is a perceived misdeed by law enforcement, but are not so when its the LE who filed suit. The "I should carry anywhere I want" crowd wanting the LE to keep his firearm in the vehicle. I find the dichotomy interesting.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    There's a bandwagon here?
    My airstream has been stolen by dopers

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    Both should just get 90 day suspension without pay and move on.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    Yet so many on this forum will jump on the "sue them!" bandwagon when there is a perceived misdeed by law enforcement, but are not so when its the LE who filed suit. The "I should carry anywhere I want" crowd wanting the LE to keep his firearm in the vehicle. I find the dichotomy interesting.
    What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Any cop worthy of the badge should understand and believe in that.

    He has no more right to life or duty to protect than anyone else. The only difference is he gets paid to do it as a job.

    Aside from Fitz’s quasi answers, I haven’t seen anyone answer the questions I asked, so I’ll leave my comments to what I have written.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickNorris View Post
    There's a bandwagon here?
    I could care less about the bandwagon ... I'm still looking for the funnel cake vendor.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    Yet so many on this forum will jump on the "sue them!" bandwagon when there is a perceived misdeed by law enforcement, but are not so when its the LE who filed suit. The "I should carry anywhere I want" crowd wanting the LE to keep his firearm in the vehicle. I find the dichotomy interesting.
    He should have his weapon with him. He is an asset.

    CCWers should have their weapons with them. They are assets.

    If there is gun control limiting the ability for good guys to have guns, it should apply equally, so we can have "an honest conversation" about the stupidity of gun control.

    How are these things inconsistent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I could care less about the bandwagon ... I'm still looking for the funnel cake vendor.
    Wait.... there's funnel cakes?!
    My airstream has been stolen by dopers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I could care less about the bandwagon ... I'm still looking for the funnel cake vendor.


    Side note: OFC we all agree drawing a weapon is stupid in the circumstance. My comment was more to encourage critical thinking... when an officer demands special accommodations for being an officer, but doesn't prove it (or provide time to verify it), what is the appropriate course of action? Obviously not holding a gun on them. Looking the other direction is more acceptable. But, what's the ideal resolution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    Is an IRS office a Federal building?

    Possibly. Also could be a smaller office within a public office building. In viewing the video, it looks to be the latter.

    If so, are county LE allowed to have firearms in a federal building; if so, even when not on official business in an LE capacity?

    Depends upon the building and who is in it. I can carry in the FBI, DEA, SSA, USSS and all the other alphabet agencies, but not the US Marshals office downtown as it houses the courthouse as well.

    Do they have jurisdiction there otherwise?

    If the city police were called on 911, it appears the Deputy was out of his working jurisdiction, but it would depend upon the laws of that state. He may have still been in his county, which he would still have lawful authority.

    In the grand scheme of things, does a security guard in said building "outrank" anyone other than Federal LE?

    The $10/hr rent-a-badge doesn't outrank anyone.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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