De'Von Bailey Shooting: Video Breakdown

[FoxtArt]

The shooting seems within the law. However, I can certainly see it ending up in court. They had the kid's name and new where he lived. His buddy just stood there so it's likely he would have been arrested and surely ratted on the other one.

What would have the runner done had he been able to pull the gun? Or what would he have done had they let him run? No one will ever know. And remember, regardless of the video, the kid is innocent until proven guilty in court.

But black kid and white cops equals a lot of trouble.

If he can get a gun out of his waistband, he's doing one of two things with it:
1) Tossing it.
OR
2) Wildly shooting behind him as he runs.

Young people are by far and large, stupid in their hasty decision making. If you don't run him down, he's got a high risk of doing something violent as he flees - B&E, GTA, hostage taking, etc.


So, do you wait and see until he starts wildly shooting behind him?
If you have a family and kids, google Derek Geer.

[Bailey Guns]

Is there any issue with both running him down, and therefore both leaving the other guy?

Not a legal issue, but a tactical one. I assume they made Devon as the priority threat pretty quickly.

Oh, sure. But, if you watch the actual complete video, it seems like there was at least one other officer on scene with others arriving just moments later. As a matter of fact, the Sgt asks an officer that can't be seen on his bodycam video to get a medical kit. So there's at least 3. Then he asks about the other suspect and another officer says, "We got him." Then you get a glimpse of him on the ground at the stop location with an officer standing over him.

[BuffCyclist]

This is the first time I've heard of this, granted I live on the East coast. The video was a very interesting breakdown, and very thorough. I like that he included the law and other precedents to fully explain the situation.

It seems to me like the officers are completely in the clear, this was a necessary use of force, but we'll see what happens if it goes to trial. I applaud the officers, they had mere seconds to react to all of this and the video shows they did not overreact by any means. There were numerous signs that indicated the suspects were the correct ones that committed the crime. Remember, shoot to stop the threat. They shot until he stopped (i.e. fell over).

I hope the officers are cleared of this as soon as possible so they can get back on the streets to protect.

[cstone]

Donut does a good job, and he has a decent 70's porn stache, which is sort of surprising since he left the police profession in SC a few years ago to run a skateboard shop and do podcasting/YouTubing. There is money in it if an audience finds you.

Anyone else not surprised when De'Von took off? Too bad he didn't run while keeping his hands in the air while yelling "Hands up, Don't shoot."

[BuffCyclist]

Too bad he didn't run while keeping his hands in the air while yelling "Hands up, Don't shoot."

Yea, but everyone knows you gotta grab your pistol to immobilize it when you run in gym shorts, otherwise it'll bounce around and shoot yer junk off.

[MrAK]

Yea, but everyone knows you gotta grab your pistol to immobilize it when you run in gym shorts, otherwise it'll bounce around and shoot yer junk off.

Shoulda worn his track pants that day

[Great-Kazoo]

The shooting seems within the law. However, I can certainly see it ending up in court. They had the kid's name and new where he lived. His buddy just stood there so it's likely he would have been arrested and surely ratted on the other one.

What would have the runner done had he been able to pull the gun? Or what would he have done had they let him run? No one will ever know. And remember, regardless of the video, the kid is innocent until proven guilty in court.

But black kid and white cops equals a lot of trouble.

Exactly. In court. Until that time all bets are off. There's no Innocent till proven guilty, no Miranda reading, nothing. He / they are suspects. Once (if at all) arrested is where Miranda comes in to play. Everything else follows.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Thanks for posting this Bailey. Hadn't seen protests about this locally but I stopped following local news when the Gazette Telegraph turned into the DP-lite.

[MrPrena]

BRO........ It's "Hands Up, Don't Shoot."
Not "Hands reaching for a pocket, Don't shoot."

[JohnnyDrama]

Thanks for posting, Bailey. I hadn't heard much about this either. It's really too bad all the "journalists" focus on is the last 5-6 we seconds of the video instead of the story leading up to that.