I'm back after a short slumber.

[cableguy11]

Ok. Since I was sort of a dick in your other thread, guess I?ll keep that trend going.

I commented that at your age and having a family that you should probably be working full time and hopefully beginning your career. Some people thought I was wrong or that my thinking was harsh but I?m sticking to my guns.

So, regardless of where you and the Mrs. choose to live, my advice remains the same.

Either get through that education and get to work or just get to work and wait on the education until you reach a point in your life where it makes more sense.

In a nutshell, it?s time to shit or get off the pot.

I do wish you all the best.

I agree 100%.

[MrPrena]

Speaking of "relevant experience." There are some MD f-tards with relevant experience who try to think they have PhD , and trying to know the R&D crap. Just stfu and prescribe a Oseltamivir or picovir*

[FoxtArt]

Speaking of "relevant experience." There are some MD f-tards with relevant experience who try to think they have PhD , and trying to know the R&D crap. Just stfu and prescribe a Oseltamivir or picovir*

*The preceeding post does not constitute medical advice. To receive medical advice, you must hire a licensed doctor. (Self joke)

I'm going to have to hire a doctor just to understand that post.

[jenznat0r]

I get people are being harsh on me, and by all means I get why. I probably look like a total bum to all of you, but you'd have to see me IRL to see how hard I am literally trying at this life of mine. My life really didn't start until I was 27. A long time before that I honestly did the bare minimum to get by (please don't ask me why, just accept it). But something inside of me hit rock bottom and wanted to give life a try. Then I went onto University and met my wife who took a gamble on me that I'd be a good fit. No regrets 4 years later, just trying to iron out the bugs of life. Now I am trying to get my life into gear at 32 where most 20 or 21 year olds start out. It's not easy, but it's where I am at.

About my only hobby outside of school and family life are firearms/shooting at my local gun club on the weekends. I guess it's how we came to this crossroads about where I'm at in life and on this forum.

[FoxtArt]

I didn't start my "real" bachelor's until 33, btw. That's still 32 years to retirement. I wouldn't say I had a late start, I was trying the "make it via hard work and business ownership" since 18. After years of 80 hour weeks, I found full time "corporate" work to be...oh so so much easier and better paid. I did both for many years. Relevant experience is a joke... Can't climb these ladders that way anymore. Also FYL for anyone trying small business ownership. Highest risk investment you could make.

[MrPrena]

*The preceeding post does not constitute medical advice. To receive medical advice, you must hire a licensed doctor. (Self joke)

I'm going to have to hire a doctor just to understand that post.

Sadly there are 3 physicians who advertise in a foreign language newspaper as MD PhD in LA and Orange County (not necessary PhD on it, but write doctoral in foreign language). Sad that they have to bs themselves to make money. I know those 3 didnt go through mstp.

I get people are being harsh on me, and by all means I get why. My life really didn't start until I was 27. A long time before that I honestly did the bare minimum to get by (please don't ask me why, just accept it). Then I went onto University and met my wife who took a gamble on me that I'd be a good fit. No regrets 4 years later, just trying to iron out the bugs of life. Now I am trying to get my life into gear at 32 where most 20 or 21 year olds start out. It's not easy, but it's where I am at.

I am in 40s and my wife really invested her life to me. It was like investing in pink slip (penny stock) risky. 14 years later, it still did not pay off.

She invested her life and I dont like to disappoint my investor. If there is no significant returns, at least please your investors with some small dividends.

[jenznat0r]

I get opportunities are limited without a degree. I want a degree so badly. I came from a white collar family and there is so much pressure from my family NOT to fail. My wife is a little more easygoing, but wants a final result somehow. A degree seems about as far away as a "mystical unicorn" at this point. Compounded with the fact that as a male in America, I have a desperate desire to adequately provide for my small family. It doesn't have to be 6 figures, but enough to pay the bills, have a roof over our head and have a little excess (lower to upper middle class). Please don't get me wrong. I go to class, I do the homework, I go to office hours, and talk to my Professors. But when it comes down to brass tax I'm struggling to keep up with my peers and get the grades I need to graduate. Where it's going to so wrong, I wish I knew.

All in all? I'm just a 32 year old guy that loves the 2nd amendment, firearms, shooting, and anything about that subject in between. My wife calls me the "nerdy guy that doesn't fit in a box". I like watching Star Trek, cosplay, Dungeons and Dragons...and firearms (weird mix, I get it but those are my interests). Hence the avatar of Boris from Goldeneye.

Just maybe where I am lacking is some stability and I'm just trying to find my way in life. Emphasis on the "trying to find my way" part.

[FoxtArt]

Has your degree program been in a physical university/college or self studied online? If one doesn't work, try the other. I still recommend WGU for value if you want a high paying IT job. Regionally accredited, so you can transfer any "real" college". Non profit so...you probably could pay for it off Pell grants practically free, if I'm guessing your income situation. APU/AMU are other regionally accredited options, but tbh, I think WGU is both a better program and value in it's field.

Btw: I cannot do a physical university. Everyone is different, some can't do the other way. Problem for me is I'm too time efficient to learn at someone else's slower pace. That also means my bachelor's didn't exactly take 4 years to earn

[jenznat0r]

Has your degree program been in a physical university/college or self studied online? If one doesn't work, try the other. I still recommend WGU for value if you want a high paying IT job. Regionally accredited, so you can transfer any "real" college". Non profit so...you probably could pay for it off Pell grants practically free, if I'm guessing your income situation. APU/AMU are other regionally accredited options, but tbh, I think WGU is both a better program and value in it's field.

Btw: I cannot do a physical university. Everyone is different, some can't do the other way. Problem for me is I'm too time efficient to learn at someone else's slower pace. That also means my bachelor's didn't exactly take 4 years to earn

I'm studying at a traditional State University. And the traditional university format isn't working out for me at all. I like learning, but not really in the format a " physically going to class/homework" University has to offer.

Just an update, Colorado is still a remote, remote possibility. I like it here, but perhaps maybe for the wrong reasons (free state, great gun laws, no red flag laws, etc.). Sometimes I feel like my firearms ownership is keeping me here and that's about it. Like if that was totally out of the picture and off the table, maybe I'd be more open to being more flexible about going somewhere else. Maybe I need to truly journal why I want to stay in Idaho or if I want to keep my family here. Same for my wife, see what we come up with. I guess we keep going back to the fact that opportunities are less in this state because the cold, hard fact is the state has less than 2 million people in a mostly rural populated area. We keep coming back to Colorado because...just more people and more stuff. Rent is a LOT, LOT higher in CO, I get it. I lived there from 2016-2017, I remember it very well. But EVEN if I were to stay in school here and pick up a part-time job, jobs here part time pay 9 bucks an hour at best. Cost of living is DEFINITELY way lower, but IDK. I feel like CO cost-of-living proportional to ID cost of living weighs about the same when you factor out wages and rent. A GOOD full time entry level job I was offered in a interview here with some of the experience I had was 10.

The populated areas here are Boise/Pocatello/Idaho Falls and that's it. The rest is basically unpopulated. Boise has a population of 225k last I checked. Pocatello is the second largest at about 55k (where I live), Idaho Falls 48k. My wife and I talked some more on a long drive home in rural Idaho from somewhere (you do lots of driving here from one part of the middle of nowhere to another). But NOT without a safety net or a huge, laid out plan. I refuse to do it unless it makes absolute perfect sense. Until then we stay. I even suggested to my wife that if school isn't working out maybe I could try and move ahead to find a job and have some stability set up somewhat so that way even if we had to stay with her family for awhile, there's a job and some income coming in versus just totally going at it into the blind and hoping for the best.

Some of you may also wonder why I am so hellbent on Colorado, versus staying or somewhere else. I'm originally from Southern California, but there's no way I'd ever live there ever again. My mom (parents are divorced) offered if school was going rough I could move back with my family and there'd be a place for us and I could set up shop there, but I'd have to give up everything I own just to live there again. That and my wife's family are a lot more supportive than my immediate family. No thanks. In-laws in Colorado are offering something very similar but it's, well, in Colorado.

Sorry for the long post, I get this is the internet and not a counseling session. But I do believe when in doubt, it doesn't hurt to ask others for advice/counsel who might have a different perspective than you.

[MrPrena]

I remember you goto religious backed univ in idaho (no brainer to know which school it is ). I know how low the tuition it is. I think just for that reason, I would quickly finish your under/grad school. Then I would worry about moving to CO or NYC as chartered [securities] analysts and make 500k.

Last time I checked, they had 1990s' tuition rate. WOW!