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    Most places try very hard to stay out of the news so are not going to turn over a pistol to an unknown without the CBI okaying the transfer.

    Personally I think it should be mandatory. If their "insta check" system is broken it's their fault, not mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Yes and No.

    A FFL MAY transfer a firearm 3 days after receiving a "Delayed" response from NIC's.

    MAY- the FFL is not bound to transferring the firearm after a Delayed response, it is up to the individual business. I have not seen it happen in years, I don't know of any shop owner who looks forward to getting their shit pushed in because they just had to transfer firearm to a "Delayed" individual.

    The delays that we are seeing now ARE NOT "Delayed" NIC's responses, they are delays in processing the submissions. It could take 3 months to submit and process a BG and it has absolutely no bearing on the 3 day "Delayed" guidance to FFL's.

    You have no choice but to hurry up and wait.

    ^ this .
    I remember when I ran 4473, it was that delay guidance they were talking about.

    Therefore the news article and democrats are damn wrong about the loophole.

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    "Some officials running for office, including former Gov. John Hickenlooper, have called on Congress to close this regulation.

    Background checks save lives. The House of Representatives voted to close the Charleston Loophole last year—why won't the Senate act? https://t.co/xoNoRxaZUO

    — John Hickenlooper (@Hickenlooper) March 31, 2020"

    FFS, more lies.

    To the OP, doubt you're going to find one willing to go that route with any unknown patron. Perhaps one that you have entrusted your business to already for some time and are well known to the proprietor, but it's their ass on the line regardless.

    I think Bert also nailed it, since the dealer isn't receiving a "delayed" response. The real issue is, IMHO, the unconstitutional actions of CBI getting in the middle of the gun buyer and the NICS. If they want to prevent prohibited persons, which by their definition includes those with state and local level TRO and domestic abuse convictions, then do a better and accurate job of reporting and consolidating (and purging when cleared) that data to NICS and GTFO of the way.
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    If our overlords insist on using NICS, every citizen, not just ffls, should be able to use it for transferring of firearms between private parties.

    No need for silly forms and tracking serial numbers.

    Hell I would be for removing all serial numbers from guns. Government has no right to track goods purchased by its citizens.

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    That would present warranty and insurance issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colorider View Post
    Guns For Everyone in Wheatridge is looking into it. He contacted his lawyers on Tuesday to research. Edgar the owner is 100% for letting the guns go after 3 days if his lawyers say do it. Follow them on IG and Facebook for details and updates.
    If Edgars lawyers say it is ok his lawyers are idiots and if Edgar goes ahead and does it he is an idiot too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spqrzilla View Post
    There is a difference between something being legal and being prudent in today's litigation society. I wouldn't advise a store to release a firearm without a completed check. I don't think this is a test of 2A commitment.
    Agreed 100%. Most are not going to risk taking that step, I wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock_castle View Post
    Does anyone know of a CO FFL that is releasing after three days? Thanks for your reply.
    No.

    Shoot some of your other guns and this one will be along when it gets along. You've been on here for six years which would tend to make a person think you may have a gun by now, go shoot that one. We are in a time of panic buying and anyone with any sense would understand that 'getting it quick' isn't happening right now.

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    It’s much simpler: if someone cannot have a gun they should be in a mental institution or on death row. If someone cannot be trusted with a tool for self defense they cannot be trusted in society. The system is broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CS1983 View Post
    It?s much simpler: if someone cannot have a gun they should be in a mental institution or on death row. If someone cannot be trusted with a tool for self defense they cannot be trusted in society. The system is broken.
    I tend to look at it a bit differently but only a shade.
    If we sentence someone to jail, they are supposed to be repaying their debt to society or doing pennance. Once their debt is paid they should be allowed to resume a free life. If this is not the case, then one mistake and offenders are basically forfitting their life, almost like they get the scarlet letter.

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