Which LGS are more pro 2A?

[CS1983]

It’s much simpler: if someone cannot have a gun they should be in a mental institution or on death row. If someone cannot be trusted with a tool for self defense they cannot be trusted in society. The system is broken.

[Erni]

It?s much simpler: if someone cannot have a gun they should be in a mental institution or on death row. If someone cannot be trusted with a tool for self defense they cannot be trusted in society. The system is broken.

I tend to look at it a bit differently but only a shade.
If we sentence someone to jail, they are supposed to be repaying their debt to society or doing pennance. Once their debt is paid they should be allowed to resume a free life. If this is not the case, then one mistake and offenders are basically forfitting their life, almost like they get the scarlet letter.

[CS1983]

I tend to look at it a bit differently but only a shade.
If we sentence someone to jail, they are supposed to be repaying their debt to society or doing pennance. Once their debt is paid they should be allowed to resume a free life. If this is not the case, then one mistake and offenders are basically forfitting their life, almost like they get the scarlet letter.

Yes. That’s my point. If they’re not on death row (I find life sentences cruel and unusual, and basically the Russian literature of death row), or in a mental institution, they should not be excluded.

[BPTactical]

Yes. That’s my point. If they’re not on death row (I find life sentences cruel and unusual, and basically the Russian literature of death row), or in a mental institution, they should not be excluded.

Respectfully disagree.
I understand the RKBA. But after working in this industry for a long time I also understand the fact that there are plenty of individuals in our society who have no business possessing a firearm and if they did, I want to be well out of range.

[FoxtArt]

Respectfully disagree.
I understand the RKBA. But after working in this industry for a long time I also understand the fact that there are plenty of individuals in our society who have no business possessing a firearm and if they did, I want to be well out of range.

Sadly, yes to this. The primary issue is those who probably should be on a penal colony are in fact often your neighbors, etc. There's way, way too much pond scum, and prison was built for profit, not for pond scum.

[UrbanWolf]

Respectfully disagree.
I understand the RKBA. But after working in this industry for a long time I also understand the fact that there are plenty of individuals in our society who have no business possessing a firearm and if they did, I want to be well out of range.

+1, pretty much anyone with half a brain and worked in in the industry for over 5 years has said the same. Being dumb is not illegal or considered mentally ill.

[O2HeN2]

Respectfully disagree.
...there are plenty of individuals in our society who have no business possessing a firearm and if they did, I want to be well out of range.

Shannon Watts quote? Cite?

O2

[BPTactical]

Shannon Watts quote? Cite?

O2

Nope, I am capable of forming my own thoughts.
Work a retail shop long enough and there will plenty of times when you complete a transfer that you say to yourself "Man, I'm glad that guy doesn't live near me...."

[Great-Kazoo]

Yes. That’s my point. If they’re not on death row (I find life sentences cruel and unusual, and basically the Russian literature of death row), or in a mental institution, they should not be excluded.

The problem with that is. Most of the on parole and or early release felons, played the parole system, like a fiddle. They claim they found jesus, saw the light and "only want to return to society". Knowing they made a mistake and looking forward to getting back to their family and society.

The parole board looks at the over crowding, available funding etc and says. Why not take a change with this model prisoner.
6 months later, if that in some cases. They're in a line up accused of stabbing someone to death. or one of the many other bad habits, society pushed them to.

I'm the victim. I mean all i wanted was her wallet. But no, she fought back, so i stabbed her, 17 times.

[CS1983]

The problem with that is. Most of the on parole and or early release felons, played the parole system, like a fiddle. They claim they found jesus, saw the light and "only want to return to society". Knowing they made a mistake and looking forward to getting back to their family and society.

The parole board looks at the over crowding, available funding etc and says. Why not take a change with this model prisoner.
6 months later, if that in some cases. They're in a line up accused of stabbing someone to death. or one of the many other bad habits, society pushed them to.

I'm the victim. I mean all i wanted was her wallet. But no, she fought back, so i stabbed her, 17 times.

Defending a systemic breakdown with a data point of said breakdown?

We either have rights or we don't. Sad to see so many here who don't actually believe we have rights. More like the 2nd suggestion I guess.