Odds on ol' Joe.

[Hummer]

I predict that this election will be the biggest clusterfu k in American political history. The craziness, unpredictability and litigiisness of Trump, the blatant ineptitude of Biden, and the last minute DNC politburo replacement will be tinder for the fire lit by the National Popular Vote scheme. It will make the hanging chad maneuvering of the Bush-Gore race look a night court sitcom. Throw in a timely Ginsburg opening on SCOTUS and the Progs and MSM will go blind with rage.

[MrAK]

Throw in a timely Ginsburg opening on SCOTUS and the Progs and MSM will go blind with rage.

I don’t know that I have enough popcorn to watch the shitstorm we’ll be presented with if Ginsburg gives up the ghost before the election.

[Bailey Guns]

I think this guy pretty much nails it:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/hill...t-jimmy-failla

There are obviously a lot of ways replacing Biden could play out. This one seems pretty plausible, though.

[two shoes]

I'm guessing he will drop out at the last minute and then they'll replace with soetoro's wife or something like that.

This or HRC jumps back in...

[DavieD55]

This or HRC jumps back in...

Another possibility could be that he selects bho for vp and then resigns for the retirement home after he's elected leaving America with another 4 years of new world order globalism.

[Martinjmpr]

I'm guessing he will drop out at the last minute and then they'll replace with soetoro's wife or something like that.

This or HRC jumps back in...

Eh, I don't see either as particularly likely. One possibility is that some faction of the Dems might have just written 2020 off in hopes of getting in better position for 2024.

If you look back at all the elections since WWII one of the things that is very clear is that any election where there is a sitting, elected* incumbent president, the president is almost always reelected.

* Note that when I say "elected" I mean elected to either the presidency or the vice presidency. So LBJ would be an example of a sitting president who was previously elected as a VP. By contrast, Ford was not elected to either office, he was appointed to the VP slot after Agnew resigned in disgrace and ascended to the presidency when Nixon did the same thing.

There seems to be a kind of "presidential momentum" that makes reelection a near certainty. So much so that I think it's worth it to consider the only two times since the end of WWII that a sitting, elected president was NOT re-elected: Carter in 1980 and Bush 41 in 1992.

Carter, besides being a rather weak and ineffectual politician to begin with (who only beat Ford because Ford was tainted with the scandals of the Nixon administration) was hit with the triple crises of economic stagnation, inflation, and international humiliation in Iran and Afghanistan (where our boycott of the 1980 Olympics just made us look like sore losers.)

Bush 41, who was riding so high after the first Gulf War that Saturday Night Live even ran a skit called "Election '92 - The Race To Avoid Being The Guy Who Loses To Bush" was also a weak candidate to begin with and the Democrats had had 12 years out of the White House to find a candidate - young, charismatic and well-spoken Bill Clinton, as well as a minor recession.

But look at Bush's successors: Clinton had huge "negatives" going into the 1996 election and so did Bush 43 going into the 2004 elections, and both won re-election easily. Same for Obama in '12.

It doesn't hurt that in all 3 of these elections, the opposing party ran a lackluster party insider either - which is exactly what Biden appears to be.

As far as Michelle Obama or Hillary jumping back into the race, I just don't see it happening. First of all, Hillary has had her two bites at the apple and now she has the taint of "loser" about her. Nobody serious is going to support her.

And while Michelle Obama might have a lot of people who like her, in modern politics, that's not enough. You have to have POLITICAL supporters which means people who's backs you've scratched and who owe you one, people who are willing to stick their necks out for you and who have something concrete that they want in return. It takes time and effort to build up that kind of "support base" and Michelle hasn't done that.

That shit happens on TV shows like "House of Cards" but in the real world of politics, people with money and power won't waste their efforts on a rank amateur (Michelle Obama) or a proven loser (Hillary.)

[Zundfolge]

If they replace Biden with anyone other than the second place finisher, Bernie, the Democrat party will explode. Doesn't mean they won't try but it'll be an entertaining shit-show.

As for replacing him with Michelle Obama (or making her his VP) I seriously doubt that because I don't think that Michelle Obama has even one single bit of interest in the job. She's way too lazy to be First Lady, let alone Vice President. She wants to sit on the veranda of her big house on Martha's Vineyard and drink mamosas with the other obnoxious, rich, leftist crones.

I think Martinjmpr is right about Hillary ... she's done, she's got no more juice. She's a two time loser.

Frankly I think that the DNC realizes they have virtually no chance of beating Trump in an honest election so they've served up ole Joe as a sacrificial lamb ... doesn't matter if his political career ends with this because he's got no future anyway.

This is why the push for nationwide vote-by-mail ... rigging the election is really all the Democrats have left.

[Gman]

During the interview on Friday, Joe Scarborough had to coach Joe into addressing Covid-19 and speaking to the doctors and nurses on the front line, and off Joe went...

I don't think he ever addressed the doctors and nurses.



Remember, this is the same man that said 150 million Americans have died from gun violence.

I think the DNC has written off the next election, as the big focus on getting Bernie out was 'down ballot House elections'. If Bernie was the candidate, a bunch of Dems were expected to sit this one out, and that would likely mean losing control of the House. Maybe they expect to lose with Joe, they just didn't want to have their voters sitting at home instead of voting.

If this turns into an election by mail, all bets are off and the level of voting corruption will make Chicago blush.

[FoxtArt]

"Sorry I misread"... Misread what... his teleprompter? You might be right on kicking Bernie to the curb being the important objective. I wonder if they didn't fear Bernie actually getting elected to extreme end - he wouldn't get much done, no more than what he did in Congress (what, named a post office?) so their objectives would be kaput either way, but within four years, the (D) would be cleaved in two. I can't imagine with as much hatred as they have towards Trump actually handing the election over for four years, but maybe they were naive enough to think Trump is hated enough for Joe to have a chance.... or like a good portion of people, they just always believe their guy is "the good guy" and going to win by some greater power of hope, who knows... but keeping the party together (and sailing in the direction of DNC's desired candidates and objectives) is probably far more important to them than a risk of not beating Trump, because if they destroy themselves during a Bernie presidency he very well might have been the last president with a "Democratic" candidate label to ever be elected.

[Gman]

I used to think the Republican party was the more disorganized and incompetent of the two. Trump came into the picture and ran right over the RNC.

Hillary owned the DNC, and was so dislikable that she lost to a guy not selected by the party he represented and had spent a lot less.

Now the RNC has had a chance to refocus and the DNC is pulling out all the stops just to avoid losing control of the party.

The establishment parties have both seen rejection in the past election and it's still in play this cycle.