RUFKM? This state is absolutely retarded

[Great-Kazoo]

By moving you delayed the problem a bit, but it will get there sooner than you think. We were contemplating Idaho for awhile, but started researching the changes going on there and other "conservative" destinations and realized we weren't really escaping anything. The same buttheads that moved to and screwed Colorado are doing the same thing to Idaho, Arizona, and others. Look at Texas, they are soon done too.

Delayed a few years, is better than paying for a flag burning state government, who can't spend your taxes, fast enough. On social experiments, hand outs and most of all, saying fuk you to any remaining anglos.

Throw in the traffic which seems to be (depending on area) 24/7 . Tougher gun laws, with pleas of IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN. No way. What was once a pristine state where you could sit in the same cafe as red necks, hippies, trustafarians and cops.

Without anyone having an issue with each other, even talking politely to them, passed at least 5ish years ago..

[Bailey Guns]

I can tell you from actually living in Idaho for the past 5 years what you're saying is not true about Idaho. Yes, a lot of people are moving there. Yes, some are liberals. However, according to voter registrations, far more new residents are registering as republicans than democrats. This was from a study done by the very liberal Idaho Statesman. Registered republicans outnumber democrats in the state by 4 to 1. Unaffiliated voters, who mostly vote republican, outnumber democrats by 2.5 to 1. In many state and local elections the republican candidate frequently runs unopposed.

The metrics that might cause someone to move to Colorado are very different than those that might cause them to move to Idaho.

I can also tell you that by moving I didn't just "delay" anything. When we moved to Idaho from Colorado we greatly increased our standard, and quality, of living. And we didn't have to endure the liberal bullshit any longer that's so pervasive in Colorado. We also put behind us oppressive costs of living, traffic and other factors that made living in Colorado such a pain in the ass. As a matter of fact, moving to Idaho made such a difference in my standard of living it allowed me to retire at 59 after my divorce. I moved to rural Oklahoma to do it but it was all because I made that decision to leave the liberal infested shithole of Colorado.

So my advice, from someone whose done it, twice, is this: If you think you'd like to leave the liberal haven of Colorado, do it. There are still places where freedom is alive, regardless of what you hear from those who haven't done it. You're not running from anything. You're running toward a better life.

[hurley842002]

So my advice, from someone whose done it, twice, is this: If you think you'd like to leave the liberal haven of Colorado, do it. There are still places where freedom is alive, regardless of what you hear from those who haven't done it. You're not running from anything. You're running toward a better life.

Couldn?t have said it better myself, having lived in Colorado my whole life, and still having all my family there, it was a big decision, but I was DONE with Colorado?s BS, add to that the lower cost of living and career advancement. It?s funny because once locals here find out what I?m about, they question why I moved to ?liberal? Tucson, all I can do is laugh, because while Tucson is liberal for AZ, it?s NOTHING compared to Colorado liberalism.


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[clodhopper]

I hear what you are saying, I don't disagree with the current differences. They wont stay that way. Besides, the majority of the downsides listed are the Denver urban area. You do know there is ALOT of the rest of the state that aren't infested with people and traffic? There were many reasons we wanted to stay in the region, so made the move to Weld county. It is fun during the covid stuff to hear the county leadership tell Denver to go pound sand. And despite the fact that it will probably never happen, the secession notion to get Weld county to leave Colorado and join Wyoming sure makes certain peoples heads spin. There are some left leaners around, but even those tend to be pretty conservative in nature out here.

There are options other than uprooting life and skipping state. I moved over and over in my youth. Pretty happy to have the opportunity to not have to do it again. Urban areas suck. I much prefer living in proximity to a town of 200. Would make the same choice again, even though I was pretty set on an Idaho move.

[Zundfolge]

Another step on the path...

Did anyone else read that as "All in all you're just a 'nother step on the path..."?

[Bailey Guns]

I hear what you are saying, I don't disagree with the current differences. They wont stay that way. Besides, the majority of the downsides listed are the Denver urban area. You do know there is ALOT of the rest of the state that aren't infested with people and traffic? There were many reasons we wanted to stay in the region, so made the move to Weld county. It is fun during the covid stuff to hear the county leadership tell Denver to go pound sand. And despite the fact that it will probably never happen, the secession notion to get Weld county to leave Colorado and join Wyoming sure makes certain peoples heads spin. There are some left leaners around, but even those tend to be pretty conservative in nature out here.

There are options other than uprooting life and skipping state. I moved over and over in my youth. Pretty happy to have the opportunity to not have to do it again. Urban areas suck. I much prefer living in proximity to a town of 200. Would make the same choice again, even though I was pretty set on an Idaho move.

I don't disagree with what you say about the rest of the state. The only problem is, you're still bound by the same liberal government overreach and ridiculous laws and lies that come with liberals telling you they know how you should live your life better than you do. You still have the same onerous gun laws that restrict your freedom and were enacted to "keep you safer". You still have the same lies from the state.

You don't have that in Idaho. I don't really know your situation of course but it makes me kinda sad that you didn't think a move to Idaho would really solve anything. I gotta be honest...you don't know what you're missing. It was like going back in time 40 years or so in Colorado. Nobody telling you how to live your life, minimal gov't intervention in your life, people who live like they're free. And the people value that. Of course it won't always be the same as it is now...change is inevitable. But it doesn't have to be change for the worse.

I had two choices: stay in Idaho and keep working or move to Oklahoma and retire. I kinda like this retirement thing...otherwise I'd still be there.

[Zundfolge]

As for leaving Colorado, if it was just bad gun laws I could have stayed and fought (or just said fuck it I'm a criminal now), but it wasn't. It was ever increasing homelessness because of pot, it was ever increasing traffic because everyone and their fucking dog is trying to move to the front range, also because of that I was going in for job interviews with 50+ other candidates. It was ever increasing cost of living and it was ever decreasing quality of life.

Yes, I've had to put up with 3 digit temperatures with high humidity and a lot more bugs (and this winter the snow will also be too moist and thus heavy AF), but we just bought a house that is larger and nicer than our old house in CO for half the money and none of it borrowed ... and enough money left over that I don't have to work for a couple years if I don't want (or can't find work ... this COVID shit has interfered with some things, but I suspect that would have been worse had we stayed in CO).

Biggest downside is that I think my dog hates me now.

[buffalobo]

Did anyone else read that as "All in all you're just a 'nother step on the path..."?

Could be.

Mostly recognition of the incrementalism of the progressives for the last 100 yrs.

Just the progress they have made the last 60 yrs is amazing. The steps are getting incrementally larger as well.