The Hate just keeps on coming

[Aloha_Shooter]

They can still impeach him after leaving office for "high crimes and misdemeanors" committed while in office.

Seems the GOP is starting to get on board and Trump has now become toxic to the party, they want to keep him from running in 24.

No, they can’t. People claiming it’s a possibility are letting their partisanship overwhelm their reason or scholarship. The Founding Fathers were very clear that they thought a criminal indictment against a sitting President was problematic to say the least. The mechanism of impeachment is purely to remove said Chief Executive. It’s not a criminal trial, although it should use the same standards of evidence. If said person is out of office, impeachment is irrelevant and invalid.

I think the Dems are going down this road to besmirch Trump because they know they’d lose in court if they tried actual criminal charges. With impeachment, they can have a standard-less kangaroo court like they did the first time around. We’ve already seen Kamala has no compunction about using the legal system against people she knew were innocent.

[Zundfolge]

I suspect 3 things are going on here.

1) Pathological hatred. They just hate him so much.
2) The theory that this will preclude him from running for office again.
3) (the one nobody is talking about) His impeachment and conviction will be used as a pretext to impeach all the judges he's appointed (SCOTUS on down). And a pretext to outlaw "MAGAism/Trumpism" by removing it as speech protected by the 1st Amendment)

[clodhopper]

No, they can’t. People claiming it’s a possibility are letting their partisanship overwhelm their reason or scholarship. The Founding Fathers were very clear that they thought a criminal indictment against a sitting President was problematic to say the least. The mechanism of impeachment is purely to remove said Chief Executive. It’s not a criminal trial, although it should use the same standards of evidence. If said person is out of office, impeachment is irrelevant and invalid.

From a purely legal point of view, you are correct. No president has been impeached after they left office and there is no stipulation in the rules that says he can be. However, rules are only rules if both sides agree to follow them. Pelosi and her team have proven over and over that they will push the rules, and even ignore them, if doing so supports their cause. And there has been little to no pushback on these actions by the republicans. So the rule violation stands. If a violation of the rules is not disputed and later judged/remedied, it becomes the new rule. The supreme court has already shown they dont want to take up anything this political. So if Pelosi ignores the rules, submits impeachment after Jan 20 and the House votes for it (you know they would), what happens next? It goes to the Senate, where they would now have the advantage and Trump might actually lose (not sure how many senate democrats are fully on board like the House). The republicans can dispute it, the democrats can ignore them, the Supremes will run and hide, the MSM will be filling the citizens ears with how bad/evil Trump is and people will just want it all to end and call the senators to just let it end. From there forward, the precedent will be set and presidents can be impeached after they leave office. Does it matter, technically, being impeached? Again, according to rules, probably not much other than preventing him from running again (disputed, but I havent heard/seen otherwise). Regardless, even if he could run again, he is damaged goods and all the MSM will do his hype that he was found guilty, so will never be a good candidate after that.

The democrats have been bypassing rules/expectations for a long while now and because no one can hold their feet to the fire on any of it, it all stands. With the momentum they have right now, I see no reason for it to change.

[BushMasterBoy]

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[colorider]

I may be in the minority with my opinion, but Trump and his family need to stay away in 2024. Far away. The Trump name has become toxic beyond repair. The hatred for Trump is too strong. He or any part of his family has zero chance at presidency for quite a while.

[clodhopper]

OP's link won't load for me.

same.

[BushMasterBoy]

My opinion is Trump is history. His business empire is crumbling and his reputation is severely tarnished.

[BushMasterBoy]

I am advising anyone going to disrupt the inauguration, to stay home. It could be extremely hazardous to your health.

[Great-Kazoo]

OP's link won't load for me.

same.

looks like the media is removing anything related to the house vote to impeach. For the moment.

[SSChameleon]

While Trump was president, his supporters attacked congress and bludgeoned a police officer to death with a fire extinguisher. Trump needs to go.