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    Default 2A Sanctuary States

    Oklahoma is on the verge of becoming a 2A sanctuary state. I believe legislation is also in process in Texas. I'm not sure what it will really mean in terms of citizens of the state being able to ignore any future federal infringements...but it's certainly not a bad thing. I just wish we could pass legislation to forego background checks for gun purchases for those with permits. I miss that about Idaho.

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    Background check are unnecessary and ineffective in the 1st place.

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    Unlike rmgo and d brown This state's gun org has it together. https://azcdl.org/news-alerts/legislative-update-5/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Oklahoma is on the verge of becoming a 2A sanctuary state. I believe legislation is also in process in Texas. I'm not sure what it will really mean in terms of citizens of the state being able to ignore any future federal infringements...but it's certainly not a bad thing. I just wish we could pass legislation to forego background checks for gun purchases for those with permits. I miss that about Idaho.

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    It really depends its a gray area. In Montana we have those laws and generally they are followed. I have a family member in ATF know most of the guys at the field office in Billings many of them have been to my house worked on their cars and have hung out with a few of them outdoor activities. They all respect the state and are just as much pro 2A as myself. I have friend who is a us marshal same thing hell he is a bigger gun nut than me. One of the guys at ATF has like 10 plus tax stamps what does that tell you. The problem is the assholes that run ATF not the field agents.

    The real key is if the item in question was made in the state and stayed in the state they have no jurisdiction. Under Montana state law I can walk into a store buy a NFA item no questions asked just like a loaf of bred. However federal laws says different. In short this is what I see and hear the people who get stupid get busted. I cant go into details but in short all the people I see get hammered are shit bag criminals doing bad shit they dont mess with the common folk like me.

    Your state may differ like anything there is no real answer because I dont own a single gun made in the state of Montana technically the feds can regulate them. Like I said its a very gray area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterCO View Post
    It really depends its a gray area.
    I really don't think it's gray at all. As a matter of fact, I think it's pretty black and white. If I violate a federal law, even if my state says it's not a violation, the state isn't gonna do a damn thing when the feds kick in my door and take me to a federal detention facility.

    It would be an entirely different story if, when the feds kicked in the door, 20 or 30 state troopers showed up to help me. But that ain't gonna happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I really don't think it's gray at all. As a matter of fact, I think it's pretty black and white. If I violate a federal law, even if my state says it's not a violation, the state isn't gonna do a damn thing when the feds kick in my door and take me to a federal detention facility.

    It would be an entirely different story if, when the feds kicked in the door, 20 or 30 state troopers showed up to help me. But that ain't gonna happen.
    Forget state troopers the sheriff is who has the say as to what is or is not enforced in their county. My sheriff will never allow any of that to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I really don't think it's gray at all. As a matter of fact, I think it's pretty black and white. If I violate a federal law, even if my state says it's not a violation, the state isn't gonna do a damn thing when the feds kick in my door and take me to a federal detention facility.

    It would be an entirely different story if, when the feds kicked in the door, 20 or 30 state troopers showed up to help me. But that ain't gonna happen.
    No different than the state vs fed MJ laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterCO View Post
    Forget state troopers the sheriff is who has the say as to what is or is not enforced in their county. My sheriff will never allow any of that to happen.
    I don't care how gun friendly your sheriff is. He/she doesn't have the juice to stop the feds if they don't want to be stopped.


    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    No different than the state vs fed MJ laws.
    In theory, you're right...very similar issues. In practice, not even close to being the same. The federal gov't doesn't really give a shit about Joe Citizen smoking a little dope he purchased at his local "dispensary". There has even been legislation at the federal level to decriminalize weed in order to get in line with what states are doing in terms of legalizing marijuana use. The feds sure as shit aren't looking at becoming more friendly to gun owners...especially those in violation of federal law.

    On the other hand, maybe I just have a bad attitude towards the federal government and they really ARE here to help us all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I don't care how gun friendly your sheriff is. He/she doesn't have the juice to stop the feds if they don't want to be stopped.




    In theory, you're right...very similar issues. In practice, not even close to being the same. The federal gov't doesn't really give a shit about Joe Citizen smoking a little dope he purchased at his local "dispensary". There has even been legislation at the federal level to decriminalize weed in order to get in line with what states are doing in terms of legalizing marijuana use. The feds sure as shit aren't looking at becoming more friendly to gun owners...especially those that they are trying to entrap as they redefine firearms on a whim.

    On the other hand, maybe I just have a bad attitude towards the federal government and they really ARE here to help us all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I don't care how gun friendly your sheriff is. He/she doesn't have the juice to stop the feds if they don't want to be stopped.

    Yes the sheriff does its in the constitution a sheriff in wyoming already did it he threw the FBI out of his county. The feds took him to federal court and he won the judge ruled as per the constitution the sheriff is the chief law enforcement officer of the county as well as an elected official. Therefore the sheriff is in charge.
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