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    Everyone realizes there will be plenty of assholes lining up to get the "National Police Force" jobs right? look at TSA
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    I think some of you might be missing the point about the national police force.

    Their "special teams" will be made of of violent people who are not afraid of, and in some cases delight, in killing. You need those kinds of folks to to assure an iron hand of fear over the deplorables.

    Many names are already available in the "catch and release" lists of violent protesters, and their records are also clean because of catch and release.

    Imagine what would happen if you pin a badge on a couple hundred antifa members and send them into a "troubled" city.

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    YOU are the first responder. Police, fire and medical are SECOND responders.
    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2HeN2 View Post
    I think some of you might be missing the point about the national police force.

    Their "special teams" will be made of of violent people who are not afraid of, and in some cases delight, in killing. You need those kinds of folks to to assure an iron hand of fear over the deplorables.

    Many names are already available in the "catch and release" lists of violent protesters, and their records are also clean because of catch and release.

    Imagine what would happen if you pin a badge on a couple hundred antifa members and send them into a "troubled" city.

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    This is textbook propaganda. I'm not saying that there is nothing to be concerned about, but this is fear mongering at its finest.

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    All shooting will divide into 2 groups.

    Defund the Police Vs. Defund the Welfare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    This is textbook propaganda. I'm not saying that there is nothing to be concerned about, but this is fear mongering at its finest.
    I'm just going with the documented, historical progression of socialism in countries that have fallen, while adding a few specific details with what's currently happening here and now.

    In all honesty I hope you're right.

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    YOU are the first responder. Police, fire and medical are SECOND responders.
    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

    My feedback: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/53226-O2HeN2

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    Many of the small countries or with less than 100m population usually have national police but have district branch and state.

    I know it is weird for some, but country is too small to divide and allocate funds to state and cities.
    It is like Monaco, San Marino, Luxemburg, having different police department in every tiny town is inefficient.


    Yes. US and some large countries should have different system than Monaco.

    That being said, 1 national police system would not work too well due to city ordnance, state law being so different to next.

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    Anyone that says how the future "will be" or how "it's all going to play out" is essentially universally wrong. People have been making predictions as long as we are alive, and when they are specific, you can pretty much guarantee they will be dead wrong.

    Take 9/12/2001 for instance.
    I challenge anyone to find a "prophet" that predicted that in under 7 years, we would elect a black/arab/white man with the name Barrack Hussain Obama who grew up in an Islamic school in Indonesia to be president. You won't find a single person that saw that coming.

    Likewise, I cannot predict what the next eight years will bring. Dramatic changes are possible. Broad predictions are possible. But saying x-force is going to be created and how they are going to operate, and these are the people that they will hire, and they will roam the streets bathing in blood...

    It's not impossible, but it's also not impossible that we are being covertly ruled by lizard aliens. Just because something isn't impossible doesn't mean you "should believe it". That is not to say we have a rosy future, it is only to say that the road into the wilderness is not like one we have ever driven down before. Claiming to know where it ends is a fools errand.

    I will say, despite all the fantasies that gun owners often portray themselves in, IF, and I reiterate, IF a "gun ban" ever does come to pass, it isn't going to be door to door confiscations like many spank it to. No, broad confiscation will only come when the next generation of kids, now grown into adults, that call police and report what they feel is the equivalent of a meth lab in the house they just inherited from you, having such limited exposure to firearms and a lifetime of their society casting them in a negative light.

    Our opponents are not morons. They aren't going to go into the lobster pot and get themselves killed. They'll just patiently wait for us to boil ourselves, and avoid crossing any lines that would make us crawl out of the pot. And it is amazing that more don't recognize that. Colorado isn't pursuing an AWB right now... why?

    THAT is about as specific as a prediction I can make. They will never seize your guns from your cold dead hands (rare red flag cases excluded). Your decedents will simply be happy to turn them over as soon as your casket is shut after that heart attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    What is amusing is the end result years from now may be a police force comprised of mall cops, e.g. people who should never have any authority and don't deserve even $13.00 an hour. But it won't be their fault, the police will "always have been that way" and they are just "catching all the bad stuff now"
    Paul Blart on patrol.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    Anyone that says how the future "will be" or how "it's all going to play out" is essentially universally wrong. People have been making predictions as long as we are alive, and when they are specific, you can pretty much guarantee they will be dead wrong.

    Take 9/12/2001 for instance.
    I challenge anyone to find a "prophet" that predicted that in under 7 years, we would elect a black/arab/white man with the name Barrack Hussain Obama who grew up in an Islamic school in Indonesia to be president. You won't find a single person that saw that coming.

    Likewise, I cannot predict what the next eight years will bring. Dramatic changes are possible. Broad predictions are possible. But saying x-force is going to be created and how they are going to operate, and these are the people that they will hire, and they will roam the streets bathing in blood...

    It's not impossible, but it's also not impossible that we are being covertly ruled by lizard aliens. Just because something isn't impossible doesn't mean you "should believe it". That is not to say we have a rosy future, it is only to say that the road into the wilderness is not like one we have ever driven down before. Claiming to know where it ends is a fools errand.

    I will say, despite all the fantasies that gun owners often portray themselves in, IF, and I reiterate, IF a "gun ban" ever does come to pass, it isn't going to be door to door confiscations like many spank it to. No, broad confiscation will only come when the next generation of kids, now grown into adults, that call police and report what they feel is the equivalent of a meth lab in the house they just inherited from you, having such limited exposure to firearms and a lifetime of their society casting them in a negative light.

    Our opponents are not morons. They aren't going to go into the lobster pot and get themselves killed. They'll just patiently wait for us to boil ourselves, and avoid crossing any lines that would make us crawl out of the pot. And it is amazing that more don't recognize that. Colorado isn't pursuing an AWB right now... why?

    THAT is about as specific as a prediction I can make. They will never seize your guns from your cold dead hands (rare red flag cases excluded). Your decedents will simply be happy to turn them over as soon as your casket is shut after that heart attack.
    Great write-up, makes quire a bit of sense. It's been interesting to see how fast the Left has moved. I'm sure they felt the same about the last administration (moving so fast). When the last Conservative friendly news media goes away, and censorship is completely "progressive" the scenario you describe could become reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    Our opponents are not morons. They aren't going to go into the lobster pot and get themselves killed. They'll just patiently wait for us to boil ourselves, and avoid crossing any lines that would make us crawl out of the pot. And it is amazing that more don't recognize that. Colorado isn't pursuing an AWB right now... why?
    A very large portion of them ARE morons. The problem is that most of the group in control (Maxine Waters being a prominent exception) are not morons and are quite devious as evidenced by the use of Antifa and BLM riots through 2020 to create a feeling of unrest throughout the country, stir up their base, and build a basis for labeling their opponents as -ists and -phobes.

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