So what happens when your family is targeted in a Safe2Tell report?

[FoxtArt]

Yeah, not LE bashing. And not saying LE is out to get anyone. That's why, imho it is wise to be asking questions about the report itself so that the parent can investigate.

As a parent myself, I don't see any value in answering LE questions. And it isn't because they are out to get anyone either. Let me give you an example....

Squatter breaks into a home, owner asks LE to investigate it. LE questions the squatter who says they are renting it and have an oral lease, LE questions the homeowner, who says the squatter broke in and has never had right to be there.

LEO does 14 more calls that day and does his reports at the end of the day. Whether from fatigue or a typo, in his report he says he talked to the homeowner, who said they have an oral lease with the squatter.

LEO is not out to get the homeowner, just making regular mistakes that everyone makes at the end of the day. But it can absolutely F that person's life. I've seen tons of small mistakes like this, they are not malicious, but an LEO's report is usually treated as accurate gospel.

You know what I'd much rather have in a report?

Contacted the homeowner, advised him of the report, homeowner took note of the report and politely refused to answer questions.

Why on gods green earth should we default to allowing all government influence beyond what is necessary? Now there are certainly some parents that are not capable of working with their kids to ascertain their own mental health needs after a report like that. But there are certainly a lot of parents that are fully capable. If someone is in the former category - no judgment upon that, and they certainly should allow access and direct contact if they are not the type that is able to do those heavy discussions.

Not everyone exercising rights is out to get LEO, either.

[KevDen2005]

Yeah, not LE bashing. And not saying LE is out to get anyone. That's why, imho it is wise to be asking questions about the report itself so that the parent can investigate.

As a parent myself, I don't see any value in answering LE questions. And it isn't because they are out to get anyone either. Let me give you an example....

Squatter breaks into a home, owner asks LE to investigate it. LE questions the squatter who says they are renting it and have an oral lease, LE questions the homeowner, who says the squatter broke in and has never had right to be there.

LEO does 14 more calls that day and does his reports at the end of the day. Whether from fatigue or a typo, in his report he says he talked to the homeowner, who said they have an oral lease with the squatter.

LEO is not out to get the homeowner, just making regular mistakes that everyone makes at the end of the day. But it can absolutely F that person's life. I've seen tons of small mistakes like this, they are not malicious, but an LEO's report is usually treated as accurate gospel.

You know what I'd much rather have in a report?

Contacted the homeowner, advised him of the report, homeowner took note of the report and politely refused to answer questions.

Why on gods green earth should we default to allowing all government influence beyond what is necessary? Now there are certainly some parents that are not capable of working with their kids to ascertain their own mental health needs after a report like that. But there are certainly a lot of parents that are fully capable. If someone is in the former category - no judgment upon that, and they certainly should allow access and direct contact if they are not the type that is able to do those heavy discussions.

Not everyone exercising rights is out to get LEO, either.

That was a pretty long drawn out example. And clearly you know a bunch about the law, so I'll save you the explanation that the law tends to side with the resident/tenant in landlord issues, not saying that someone clearly trespassing can't be kicked out and should be kicked out. However, I would call that example rare, and no police reports are not taken as gospel, if so, cops would be in court less.

Sometimes having a polite conversation goes even further.

[Little Dutch]

Disregard. I misread a post.