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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    I can tell you that, from first hand experience, you're not going to be running a stop watch at your Supercharging sessions so it really is a non-issue. You start to plan and go about your road trips differently.
    ...and there you lost me. You've come to accept that your vehicle is driving you, not the other way around.

    On another note, I keep seeing people talk about how fast these vehicles can be. You owe it to yourselves to check out how the braking is on most of these very heavy vehicles when trying to quickly slow them from those fast speeds.
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    MrPrena,

    We've been a fan of Hyundai for quite some time. Wife won't let us buy a KIA, although they are cousins. Noticed early on that Hyundai covered the battery packs and motors on their EVs under their 10-year drivetrain warranty. Is it the same for KIA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    MrPrena,

    We've been a fan of Hyundai for quite some time. Wife won't let us buy a KIA, although they are cousins. Noticed early on that Hyundai covered the battery packs and motors on their EVs under their 10-year drivetrain warranty. Is it the same for KIA?


    Yes and battery is 10y as well, but not transferable even to a family member nor spouse.

    Biggest warranty I would worry about is using cheap aftermarket level2 charger and plastic area melt near the charging port. Extreme rare occasion even with cheap charger, but few wrote about that on some ev forums.
    Most likely it might not get covered but some said charger manufacturer covered the repair.

    https://origin-www.autobytel.com/kia...2022/warranty/

    https://www.kia.com/us/en/warranty


    Yeah. It is basically almost a same car. Infotainment is almost same as Hyundai. Dash and steering stuff are same/similar.
    My wife drove elantra till June 2020 and she is very familiar with the kia electronics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    Yes and battery is 10y as well, but not transferable even to a family member nor spouse.
    Nice.

    Not sure about Hyundai or Kia being able to scale up much on the EV front right now.

    The first thing you see when you go to https://www.hyundaiusa.com/us/en is the 2022 IONIQ 5 EV. When you dig a little further you see this;
    Extremely Limited Availability.
    2022 IONIQ 5 available in select states only and in extremely limited quantities. Contact your Hyundai dealer for availability details.⁠
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Nice.

    Not sure about Hyundai or Kia being able to scale up much on the EV front right now.

    The first thing you see when you go to https://www.hyundaiusa.com/us/en is the 2022 IONIQ 5 EV. When you dig a little further you see this;
    Those are much harder to find. I even gave up on other hyundai ev. They had no special offers.
    Only reason there were some Niro eV in stock was because they are having a model change on 2023.

    I am starting to see that block of 3 to 4 car manufacturer pushes ev at a time to utilize 200k threshold hold for fed rebate.
    If vw id.4 suv had some real special deal, that would have been my 1st or 2nd choice.


    BTW. If you are serious, go on to your power company for any rebates they offer. I went into xcel for charger rebate and found another rebate form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    BTW. If you are serious, go on to your power company for any rebates they offer. I went into xcel for charger rebate and found another rebate form.
    (Will post photo later)
    Good tip. My provider has a web page for incentives that can be customized depending on the make/model for what type of incentives apply. For example, I don't get jack for a Tesla Model 3, but something like the KIA Niro EV, gets me a $7,500 Federal Tax Credit and $1,300 State Tax Exemption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    ...and there you lost me. You've come to accept that your vehicle is driving you, not the other way around.

    On another note, I keep seeing people talk about how fast these vehicles can be. You owe it to yourselves to check out how the braking is on most of these very heavy vehicles when trying to quickly slow them from those fast speeds.
    No more then you do every week when you climb in and realize that you need to go out of your way to get gas and stand at a gas pump regardless of weather conditions.

    The negative hype about how "bad" the brakes on these cars are is largely exaggerated... a like like most of the FUD you read. I've never had a problem with not being able to brake. Not to mention I almost never even need friction brakes save for extreme and super rare scenarios. Gotta love brake pads and rotors lasting hundreds and thousands of miles!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    No more then you do every week when you climb in and realize that you need to go out of your way to get gas and stand at a gas pump regardless of weather conditions.

    The negative hype about how "bad" the brakes on these cars are is largely exaggerated... a like like most of the FUD you read. I've never had a problem with not being able to brake. Not to mention I almost never even need friction brakes save for extreme and super rare scenarios. Gotta love brake pads and rotors lasting hundreds and thousands of miles!
    Since someone inserted FUD into the discussion, let's throw some science in here;


    It's a similar concept to having 4WD in the snow. It might help get you going, but then you have to stop.
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