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    She says he would! I don't doubt him. Putin DGAF


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I suspect Putin is more in the wrong here than in the right. But every day we discover that what we were told yesterday was a lie ( https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/02...-social-media/ ) so I'm not ready to condemn him, nor ready to see his cities nuked, nor ready to duck-and-cover out of fear of his nukes.

    The fact that every Democrat, George Soros and the leftist media are so gung ho to condemn Putin and praise Ukraine makes be wonder if we're not being suckered into something nefarious here yet again (WMDs in Iraq, the sinking of the US Maddox in the Gulf of Tonkin, "Remember the Maine!" Operation Northwoods*, etc).

    *which thankfully never came to fruition ... but can you imagine what would have happened if it had ... we might not be here.
    That is not far away from saying,
    While I suspect the Nazi's might be slightly in the wrong, since the democrats believe the holocausts is real, maybe the holocaust is actually fake news and maybe the Nazi's had a point? Well anyway, we can't rule it out, because the democrats believe the holocaust is real something is likely up, we shouldn't be ready to condemn the Nazis just in case...
    Has it ever occurred to some of you conspiracy-minded folks that maybe, some actions are so universally evil that people *gasp* can agree despite differing political opinions *gasp*. Evil people live in this world, some of them evil enough to unite idgits in agreement.

    I never in my life thought conservatives would "devils advocate" on the side of a KGB-born dictator looking to restore the USSR. When people's justification for their opinions are based on little more than "I need to automatically believe the opposite of people I don't like", that's some kind of logical fallacy that is called "turn off the conspiracy news", and membership to the conservative party should be revoked.

    RUSSIANS don't even want to be in Ukraine fighting. Their soldiers largely were told the invasion news was western propaganda until they were shoved in trucks and forced over the border. I have sympathy for the soldiers on the ground, but fuck Putin and anyone who advocates his opinions or parrots his propaganda. (not accusing anyone at this time, just giving perspective)My best wishes, however, to the actual Slavic soldiers on both sides who are forced to fight this bullshit war.
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    WTF, nothing in his comments were even close to saying that nazi's weren't completely evil....

    Thats a bullshit false equivalence argument.


    If after the past bunch of years you aren't smart enough to question everything coming from the government and mass media, then you obviously aren't paying attention.

    The fact that the media all agrees that Nazis are evil doesn't make the media truthful or accurate on everything else...
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    I would just use drones and attack the fuel tanker trucks in the 40 mile long convoy. Just sayin'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    I would just use drones and attack the fuel tanker trucks in the 40 mile long convoy. Just sayin'...
    The convoy is running out of gas. I wouldn't be surprised if it's half abandoned before long.

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    Oil is over $106 A BARREL. Time to buy a horse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    That is not far away from saying,


    Has it ever occurred to some of you conspiracy-minded folks that maybe, some actions are so universally evil that people *gasp* can agree despite differing political opinions *gasp*. Evil people live in this world, some of them evil enough to unite idgits in agreement.

    I never in my life thought conservatives would "devils advocate" on the side of a KGB-born dictator looking to restore the USSR. When people's justification for their opinions are based on little more than "I need to automatically believe the opposite of people I don't like", that's some kind of logical fallacy that is called "turn off the conspiracy news", and membership to the conservative party should be revoked.

    RUSSIANS don't even want to be in Ukraine fighting. Their soldiers largely were told the invasion news was western propaganda until they were shoved in trucks and forced over the border. I have sympathy for the soldiers on the ground, but fuck Putin and anyone who advocates his opinions or parrots his propaganda. (not accusing anyone at this time, just giving perspective)My best wishes, however, to the actual Slavic soldiers on both sides who are forced to fight this bullshit war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    That is not far away from saying...
    I said I don't trust the media coverage of the Ukraine situation and you spin that into me being a Nazi loving conspiracy nutter parroting Putin propaganda?

    Your take is bad and you should feel bad.
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    I agree with the media spin, I have no idea what is going on.

    Our media is saying Putin is feeding his people misinformation through social media and news, but….
    Picture of Miss Ukraine fighting was fake.
    Pictures of their president in battle gear were from 2019.
    Road signs misleading tanks were fake.
    Pictures of school children learning how to handle guns was old and out of context.
    All these pictures of Russian troops walking home.. who the hell knows what is really going on.
    Many of the pics I have seen of broken or blown up vehicles is obviously not recent if you look closely.
    The list keeps going.
    I guess some important dude from Russia was going address the UN and explain Russias reasoning, but everyone walked out and we do not know what he said. I would think based on my reading of The Art of War, everyone should have paid a lot of attention.
    Zelensky has delivered some seriously emotional speeches, but he was a successful actor prior to becoming president.
    If Putin really wanted to blow shit up, why send such a small percentage of what he had on tap?. Kinda makes the little bit of what he said about why seems plausible.
    As of Sunday the death count was supposedly around 300, the death count from COVID in the USA in the same amount of time as conflict was supposedly over 6000, even per capita a much higher percentage of Americans are dying on ventilators than Ukrainians in war based on some simple math.
    Oil prices are soaring and Putin is selling oil, so I doubt any sanctions on Russian oligarchs kids out of country tuition are really having much of an impact.

    I will admit I am partially retarded and not really following, but everything we are being told about the bad guys seems to be exactly what we are doing.

    what ever happened to believe nothing you hear, and half of what you see?
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    Well the ruble keeps dropping, we can verify that anyway.
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