No More Gasoline Cars

[hollohas]

Wait, what? I'm not xcel customer but are you saying that they can remotely set your thermostats when and to what they choose to?

Only if you opt in to save $40/year.

Here's just one of many posts floating around...

[.455_Hunter]

Only if you opt in to save $40/year.

Here's just one of many posts floating around...

Yup- That's why you say no to utilities having direct control over your usage and settings.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

“MANDATORY SAVING EVENT”

That is Orwellian at it highest form! I guess “Free sauna” was too on the nose…

When they turn off our cars, or won’t let them go to certian zones, they’ll call it “Mandatory Staycations”….




Electric cars are getting better, and I?m not sure where the battery tech will be in ten years.

Cars are one thing, they also can just tax teh bejesus out of the cars and fuel too- or close gas stations.

I?m not anti-EV, I just want people to choose it, not have it dictated to us. And yes, every enviro that is anti-nuclear is a clear sign that they aren?t about clean energy, they are about controlling energy.

The steel mill is very interesting use of EVs. You?d think directed solar concentrators would be More efficient that taking solar and turning it into electricity and then turning it into heat?. Less to break potentially too.

[Zundfolge]

Only if you opt in to save $40/year.

Here's just one of many posts floating around...

I wouldn't have been foolish enough to sign up for this program, but the first time that ever happened to me, I'd head down to Home Depot with $42 and pick up on of these.



And then box that "smart" piece of crap up and take it back to Xcel (and demand a receipt).

[ray1970]

Only if you opt in to save $40/year.

Man. Just think about everything a person could do with that extra $3.33 every month. Totally worth turning over control of your HVAC to your public utility company.

[TRnCO]

I'd be telling Xcel to pound sound, but I'm also a fuddy dud about auto payments for any of my bills. If I owe for electric, TV, etc., those companies will get my money when I am ready to send them my money, not when they're ready for my payment.

[theGinsue]

You?d think directed solar concentrators would be More efficient that taking solar and turning it into electricity and then turning it into heat?. Less to break potentially too.

Somewhere on the drive from Vegas to L.A., in CA, is a huge solar concentrator facility. It has been nothing short of a huge failed experiment. I saw this thing a couple of years ago and wanted to know more about it. I dug up a lot of research data and read up on it for days and found it is still costing more to use than it generates and (as I recall) it's only about 12% efficient - producing very little in the way of electricity. But, the right time of day during the right season you can get a suntan driving past the place.

[Gman]

Yup- That's why you say no to utilities having direct control over your usage and settings.

BINGO!!!

The business arrangement with Xcel is that they're in business to sell you electricity. It's up to you as the customer as to when you buy and how much you buy. Never forget it.

I used to get emails regularly from Xcel and via Xcel through Honeywell (maker of the smart thermostat I was using). Just say no.

It isn't much of a reach to see how the government can limit the mobility of the populace via electric cars.

[eddiememphis]

BINGO!!!

The business arrangement with Xcel is that they're in business to sell you electricity. It's up to you as the customer as to when you buy and how much you buy. Never forget it.

I used to get emails regularly from Xcel and via Xcel through Honeywell (maker of the smart thermostat I was using). Just say no.

It isn't much of a reach to see how the government can limit the mobility of the populace via electric cars.

Unfortunately, there is no choice from whom to buy the electricity.

All monopolies are created by special privilege of government.

[BushMasterBoy]

Supposedly cadmium-tellurium photovoltaic cells are more efficient than just plain silicon cells. Probably similar to comparing the old Pentium processors to todays modern laptops. I could still see my self driving an EV and charging it by a large array in the back yard. Still out of my price range currently.

https://www.investopedia.com/first-s...actory-6541142

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Solar