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    Fleeing Idaho to get IKEA Bailey Guns's Avatar
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    Didn't take long for the haters to show up. Never does. There's always somebody who feels the need to rain on the parade any time CMP sales come up for discussion.

    If you don't want one, fine. Don't submit your application. They're not for everyone and I can understand and respect that. But why do so many of you feel the need to diminish a great program? And I wish those of you who know where to find a serviceable, genuine USGI issue 1911 with basic provenance, Colt or otherwise, for under $1000 would let me know. Seriously...I'd love to know. Go ahead...I'll gladly wait.

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    From the CMP point of view, these weapons are simply used govt surplus to be distributed at appropriate used weapon value, or relatively close to that. The CMP keeps raising the bar to obtain a weapon and raising the price. They have lost the path.
    No...you missed the point and CMP hasn't "lost the path"...whatever that means.

    If these were being distributed at their "appropriate value" they'd be offered at $2000 or more. I'd hardly call the cost of these 1911s "out of control" when they're generally about half of what similar guns sell for on the open market. The CMP was required to go to great expense to provide these guns to the public. Where do you think the "profits" from CMP gun sales go? It's not like they go into someone's pocket. The profits from CMP sales (of all their products...not just 1911s) go towards funding training and marksmanship events and facilities around the country. Money that isn't spent on those programs and associated costs goes into an endowment that will fund the program into the future once there are no longer surplus guns to sell.

    For the life of me I can't understand how, when the US government actually creates a worthwhile program, some of you can nothing but bitch about it.

    FFS...some of you people can't see the forest for the trees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Didn't take long for the haters to show up. Never does. There's always somebody who feels the need to rain on the parade any time CMP sales come up for discussion.

    If you don't want one, fine. Don't submit your application. They're not for everyone and I can understand and respect that. But why do so many of you feel the need to diminish a great program? And I wish those of you who know where to find a serviceable, genuine USGI issue 1911 with basic provenance, Colt or otherwise, for under $1000 would let me know. Seriously...I'd love to know. Go ahead...I'll gladly wait.

    Yeah, I asked the wrong question to a group that only see one side of a situation. Not raining on anyone's parade. I asked a question and immediately beat over the head with the same concept (that somehow I dont "understand") that I was specifically questioning. So, I guess that makes me the "old man shouting at the sky". :rolleyes

    So, no, I dont want one at that price. And no, I will not be submitting an application. I get it, you are enamored with the historic relevance of a genuine USGI piece. If you are into that, great. I stand by my assertion that the CMP was not created to sell collectors pieces at collector prices.

    I am one of those guys on the other end of things. It is a mechanical device to sling a chunk of lead downrange. USGI? Ok, cool I guess, but I am still going to use it just like a Rock Island crapper bought at a gun shop. I am not one to hide stuff in a safe hoping I chose the investment right. And not everyone holds the same beliefs/habits that I do. That is fine in my eyes. Maybe very few or nobody else around here sees it like I do.


    God forbid anyone question some aspect of the firearm industry around here to initiate discussion. Sheesh.
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