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    Grand Master Know It All eddiememphis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    Everything I've been told in self defense classes is that if you aren't ready to go to the level of lethal force in self defense you are best off to do whatever you can to de-escalate or leave the scene. Your lawn is included as being a part of your home with the castle doctrine. What is the law in Denver anyway in regards to firing a paintball gun in city limits? I know that they treat shooting a kids bow in your backyard the same as shooting a firearm.
    Unless you took those classes from the lawyer that will represent you in court, you might want to wait until the intruder, "has made an uninvited entry into the dwelling", per CO 18-1-704.5

    There are provisions for assault outside of the dwelling but specific exclusions if it is provoked by the occupant. That may be interpreted by lawyers and juries in different ways.

    Best advice in our litigious and ever more left leaning society is to stay inside and call the cops.

    If someone kicks in the door, that is an entirely different situation.

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    pepper balls @980fps, just to be sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drucker View Post
    pepper balls @980fps, just to be sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    Unless you took those classes from the lawyer that will represent you in court, you might want to wait until the intruder, "has made an uninvited entry into the dwelling", per CO 18-1-704.5

    There are provisions for assault outside of the dwelling but specific exclusions if it is provoked by the occupant. That may be interpreted by lawyers and juries in different ways.

    Best advice in our litigious and ever more left leaning society is to stay inside and call the cops.

    If someone kicks in the door, that is an entirely different situation.
    While I agree that I'm concerned that, "......Your lawn is included as being a part of your home with the castle doctrine........" is accurate or not............
    I'm also concerned about your comment of "...........There are provisions for assault outside of the dwelling but specific exclusions if it is provoked by the occupant........."
    Can you provide a legal reference to your comments?

    Also CRS 18-1-704.5 concerns the use of Deadly Force................

    Part of the grey area the OP brought up is the question that, in theory, a Pepperball gun isn't deadly force. (So say the various PD's that use them).
    But to your point, we aren't talking about an intruder entering your home but a trespasser...........
    and what is a reasonable response to a trespasser, who refuses to leave.

    (Just my 2% internet advice, if the trespasser isn't doing anything, besides trespassing, so not provoking the situation and simply passively refusing your orders to leave, that you don't do anything either, simply call the Police.
    If he/she/it does something to escalate or endanger you in anyway, respond in kind.)

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