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What I don’t understand is how trucks go so expensive.
The manufacturers have found a niche that is willing to take big loans / leases to have the “biggest”
I also suspect many people buy more car/truck than they can really afford
Buying $100k pickup… a person should be earning $200-250k to be able to really afford it.
So it's the opposite in which way?
You actually can do nothing but fluids and brakes on Toyota or Lexus and you'll go way over 100k miles before you need to even think about replacing something. That same Euro approach to car maintenance that you describe will make a japanese car go even longer.
German cars, especially Audis, are famous for having catastrophic issues when they get older. That's why their resale value plummets like a rock.
Yes. However most of them are dealer only. That is how they get their inventory.Originally Posted by flogger
Manheim is the big one in town. It's out at Smith and Buckley. Huge place and hundreds of guys turn out every auction.
One of the best cheap beater cars you can find is an old Volvo 240 sedan. Built like a tank, super reliable, and no way he'll be hot rodding that.
Second choice would be a 3rd or 4th generation V6 Camry. Great cars, surprisingly fast, expect to replace the struts though, and although they are safe in an accident the crumple zones in the 4th generation guarantee it'll be totaled even with a low speed impact.
Last edited by Clint45; 12-22-2022 at 19:59.
There's an auction every Saturday a little over an hour from me, open to the public
So almost found a great truck. Had a deal to see and essentially pick the truck up but could not meet until 1PM. Call the guy and talk at 9:30am to meet up at 1. No problem see u then. At 12:50 text him I?m on my way. ?Sorry it?s gone?. Ok. Wtf. Never mentioned anything about me being a backup or having others in que.
If he had told me I would have met him at 10 and rescheduled some meetings. Grrr.
Had a guy call me back an hour later about another truck.
Met up and did a no issue handshake deal for an agreed price with a pick up at a later date. This truck is higher mileage and has a few issues to sort out. But is down right ?nice? compared to the other junkers out there. The owner tried to fix everything but realized he did not need a farm truck for his small goats. Not to mention the Ranger clutch was too much for his kid. So I should be picking up the truck in a week or so, which is fine as my son is spending Christmas with grandpa.
So in conclusion. Have cash and run to the great deal. And there is still good folks out there, although far and widely spread out.
Surprisingly, I do see certain used vehicles to be appreciating assets, but it's less to do with economy in my mind (although inflation will not stop rolling now), and heavily involved in all the new regulations they are pushing on car manufacturers.
Not only do they have to integrate more crap, add more weight, but also cut down the MPG to fairy numbers, and on top of it, they have to soon add crap like "drunk driver detection".
Not sure about you guys, but I'm not keen on buying a $100,000 vehicle that I have to give a blowjob to every time I want to start it, or alternatively, has a video camera monitoring my every move to forward to big brother, all for the privileges' of having something entirely gutless and impossible to maintain and with 640+ chips that constitute unique points of failure. New vehicles aren't going to last 100k miles. They aren't maintainable without insane expense involved. And I'm far from the only one that feels, and will feel this way.
Until they legislate used vehicles out of existence, they are headed in the direction of pre 1986' NFA in some regards. Just more ubiquitous, so you won't see the 2000% value increase or anything, but depreciation will only start to affect the new ones.
My 2 cents.
Last edited by FoxtArt; 12-23-2022 at 09:46.
I agree with you FA. I think circa 2010 are the sweet spot. Good crash protection created with computer modeling during design, decent engines with good enough electronics but some issues, and not a lot of gov driven features.
And if you want more reliable but willing to give up some inherent safety then a 2005 or so model year is the way to go.
Just give 'em time...
I like hearing that it's still a sellers' market.
I'm fixing to sell my 2009 Expedition EL when I get back to Colorado next month. I don't remember the mileage but it was used primarily as a camping vehicle while I was active with the Boy Scouts or when bad weather hit and I wanted something sturdy so I've been putting about 5000-7000 miles a year on it in the 11 years I've owned it (bought it used and I think it was a rental for its first year). I just don't need that much cargo room now that I'm not involved with Scouting.
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