Bag Fees

[HBARleatherneck]

I figured that health and safety would trump the bullshit.

Look at the counter or the conveyor at the store. cantaloupe, broken eggs, other fruits, vegetables and meats that leak. then you drag your cloth bag over that, put it in your car that is now contaminated. Into your house, back into the car to ferment and repeat the process. I assume thats how it happens anyway, I dont go shopping and we dont use reusable bags.

However, we do use the "single use" plastic bags for everything... bathroom trash can, diapers, cleaning out vehicles, carrying stuff in, keeping extra clean clothes in when Im on the ambulance, and a ton of other uses. They are clearly not single use.

[eddiememphis]

Wonder what I'm going to put dog poop in, especially now that we have another dog? I exclusively use KS grocery bags.

They have rolls and rolls of free bags in the produce section. The heavy ones work well for poop pickup.

[Hummer]

Asswipes got wealthy in the plastics industry with no regard for the future impact. Once again, peasants pay the price for the outcome. Years ago, milk came in glass, (easily recyclable) groceries came in paper (easily biodegradable). I remember in the 60's, my father would take a case of empty beer bottles to turn in when he bought a full case, no one complained. Except, apparently business' found it was not cost effective. And now what about all the plastic water bottles that everyone overpays for because everyone wants instant gratification. I continue to use the two water filters I have and use reusable (over and over) metal cups and bottles.

When milk, buttermilk and cream came in bottles, they were returned for credit, washed and reused. Same with soft drinks. I remember touring the Pepsi and CocaCola plants in Denver to see that a big part of their business involved collecting and washing bottles. In the early 1950's, my dad had a job as a deliveryman for the City Park Farm Dairy in Denver. He drove one of those funky milk trucks to deliver to the wooden milk boxes on everyone's front porch. I rode with him on some deliveries. Those wooden crates of quart and half-gallon bottles full of milk got pretty heavy. I doubt there'd be many people willing to do that work anymore (other than immigrant Mexicans).

When wax coated cardboard cartons entered the market the milk delivery business fell quickly. Now people could more safely and easily carry milk from the grocery. I remember the wax coating could get kind of icky around the spout and drop wax into the milk. Later, plastic coating replaced the wax, and then all plastic containers gradually replaced the cardboard. Plastic cartons are lighter, stronger and cheaper than the cardboard so milk and juice could be sold in gallon containers. Packaging is the major cost of most products. For things like shampoo it can amount to 96 cents for packaging and four cents for the shampoo.

I get that plastic pollution is a major health problem for all forms of life and it needs to be dramatically reduced. One way to do that is to recycle all plastics that can be, and never allow plastics to remain and deteriorate outdoors. Plastic bags have gotten thinner and use more biodegradable ingredients like corn starch, but they're still mostly plastic. I'm open to using cloth carry bags. I do wish there was a better alternative for plastic storage and trash bags.

[buffalobo]

I figured that health and safety would trump the bullshit.

Look at the counter or the conveyor at the store. cantaloupe, broken eggs, other fruits, vegetables and meats that leak. then you drag your cloth bag over that, put it in your car that is now contaminated. Into your house, back into the car to ferment and repeat the process. I assume thats how it happens anyway, I dont go shopping and we dont use reusable bags.

However, we do use the "single use" plastic bags for everything... bathroom trash can, diapers, cleaning out vehicles, carrying stuff in, keeping extra clean clothes in when Im on the ambulance, and a ton of other uses. They are clearly not single use.

Mrs bo makes same point to store managers, occasionally one agrees with her but most just stare back blankly.

[MED]

If there is a dumb-ass virtue signaling thing to do, CO is sure to do it. I absolutely hate this place. I was born here 51 years ago, and I can't wait to leave (the days of it being nice are long gone). Three more years to go before retirement; I'm stuck here until then. As far as the stupid bag thing, I'm just going to put a plastic tub for groceries in my car and a backpack; I just grab the tub, put it in my cart, and put the stuff in it when I check out. I'm not buying those dumb reusable bags,, pay fees or conform in any way to their BS. I'll just have a plastic tub with Colorado sucks written all over it. The stupid in this state is ridiculous; it's going to be a long three years.

[Doc45]

Fyi the idiots in Louisville voted a 25 cent “tax” on bags in 2019, it covers the state mandated 10 cent fee. Can I reuse the bags I got last week at KS or do I have to get the “reusable” bags the store sells?

[Clint45]

Plastic bags have gotten thinner and use more biodegradable ingredients like corn starch,.

Yep... and when you're carrying groceries from the car to the house a third of them tear open because they cannot hold a coupla pounds.

[wctriumph]

Walmart and King Soopers have removed all bags but as of yesterday Walmart is still offering their fabric bags but my understanding is that once those are gone they will no longer offer bags. We do use the produce bags as well. Since we know this was happening, we went to a Walmart in Weld county and stocked up on several dozen plastic Walmart bags.

[Joe_K]

? In the early 1950's, my dad had a job as a deliveryman for the City Park Farm Dairy in Denver. He drove one of those funky milk trucks to deliver to the wooden milk boxes on everyone's front porch. I rode with him on some deliveries. Those wooden crates of quart and half-gallon bottles full of milk got pretty heavy. I doubt there'd be many people willing to do that work anymore (other than immigrant Mexicans).

Plenty of folks still willing to do manual labor, but, just as your Father worked that job back in the day, he did it because it payed the bills.

[callerys]

Walmart and King Soopers have removed all bags but as of yesterday Walmart is still offering their fabric bags but my understanding is that once those are gone they will no longer offer bags. We do use the produce bags as well. Since we know this was happening, we went to a Walmart in Weld county and stocked up on several dozen plastic Walmart bags.

So they aren't even selling plastic bags? Or are they selling only the paper ones?

last weekend at Sams I bought a box of 1000 plastic bags. Wonder if they are still stocking these.