"Ghost Gun" Ban Passes Committee

[zteknik]

Is the term ghost gun even socially acceptable? I mean isn?t it offensive to some group? Shouldn?t they be called undocumented firearms?

Or they can identify as fishing poles. How dare they deadname..

[TRnCO]

just another "feel good" law that won't do a dang thing in stopping even one crime from happening. Because after all, laws aren't preventable steps in stopping crime. PERIOD....

[Eric P]

How would they enforce this? Zero record or database of unserialized guns.

3d printing has pretty much nullified every gun control law.

[rtr]

How would they enforce this? Zero record or database of unserialized guns.

3d printing has pretty much nullified every gun control law.

The law requires unserialized guns to be serialized by an FFL. The engraved serial number must be preceded by the FFL number. The serial number must be recorded and retained by the FFL.

I am not aware of an FFL in Colorado who advertises engraving as a service they offer.

[Eric P]

The law requires unserialized guns to be serialized by an FFL. The engraved serial number must be preceded by the FFL number. The serial number must be recorded and retained by the FFL.

I am not aware of an FFL in Colorado who advertises engraving as a service they offer.

But how will it be enforced? The whole point of 80% or 3d printed is to have something the government doesn't know about. Because you know, they have zero right knowing what you own.

They have zero record of who owns these, and have no way of tracking down owners, except by a slim chance encounter. This law is nothing but virtue signaling that accomplishes absolutely nothing, except to say they did something. Home manufacturing of firearms is in the longstanding history and tradition of this country. So these new laws do not pass the new tests for gun laws set by recent USSC rulings.

[eddiememphis]

3d printed glocks, 3d printed ARs, Aks, etc, all use standard barrels and uppers/slides. Even the more complete 3d printed guns use metal barrels & bolts. Why would these have a chance of exploding vs manufactured guns?

I've fired a few 1000 rounds from printed glocks and ARs. The frames crack after a while and cause jams.

Exactly my point.

The media makes it seem as though any knucklehead with an office depot 3D printer is churning out AR-15s.

Until the technology advances to the point of affordable molecular printing, the hard parts will still need to be made with fire and hammers.

[eddiememphis]

This law... accomplishes absolutely nothing, except to say they did something.

Duh...

Although, it may accomplish continued support and funding for those that wrote and voted for the bill.

That is why there were over 400 new laws enacted in Colorado in 2022.

We will soon see the tally for this session.

[def90]

So.. AKs have a serial number on the trunnion, I'm assuming I'm in compliance.

[powerstroke79]

Going to House committee tomorrow. Please sign up to let your voice be heard. In-person,remotely or read testimonials. Even if your not into home building. It's will just be another rung on the ladder. Thank you for your time.

https://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/C...nsf/signIn.xsp

If this help get the word out, Here is a copy of the read testimony I submitted. Feel free to copy paste ,add or take away.

I am writing to you today to urge you to oppose Bill 23-279, a bill that bans custom-made firearms, otherwise referred to as “ghost guns.” This bill does nothing to prevent prohibited people from getting their hands on firearms. This bill is another tax on honest firearm owners like my self.

The bill states an induvial would have to take the homemade firearm to an ffl to get a serial number issued then engraved. Has there been any outreach to ffls to see if this service is even available? What is the cost of this going to be to request a serial Number? What is the time frame to receive the serial number from CBI? Once the serial number has been received can the engraving be done by any service or only at an FFL? The bill then states that that induvial will have to Submit a back ground check from CBI. Is this fee going to be $10? There is going to be a fee for the ffl to do the paper work for CBI. This normally runs $20-$40 per item. Is this going to be Waved? There will be no grandfather clause?

These are all questions that should be addressed prior to instituting any bill. There needs to be further clarification prior to this bill being passed.

In closing, this bill will not stop a prohibited person from buying or building a firearm. A criminal does not follow rules or laws. I ask you to stop restricting and taxing my rights. Thank you for your time,

[ChadAmberg]

So what would happen if you build a P80 before this, and engrave a serial number on it yourself already. Then this legislation comes along requiring an FFL to engrave a second serial number. Yeah... that'd be fun to deal with.