What statutes or "laws" are you referring to?Originally Posted by Elhuero
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What statutes or "laws" are you referring to?
it was posted above...
you, with the hands, got any ID?C.R.S. 16-3-103. Stopping of suspect:
(1) A peace officer may stop any person who he reasonably suspects is committing, has committed, or is about to commit a crime and may require him to give his name and address, identification if available, and an explanation of his actions. A peace officer shall not require any person who is stopped pursuant to this section to produce or divulge such person's social security number. The stopping shall not constitute an arrest.
(2) When a peace officer has stopped a person for questioning pursuant to this section and reasonably suspects that his personal safety requires it, he may conduct a pat-down search of that person for weapons.
now what wasn't posted was, After the officer pats you down for weapons and you have them is he allowed to confiscate them and plant them on a felon to justify a dirty shoot at a later time??
(Actually happened to me in KY)
Watch out about defending Stanley, Byte. He is a wing nut and some of his actions align with the militias.
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
That statute applies only to -
"any person who he reasonably suspects is committing, has committed, or is about to commit a crime"
Walking down the street, being somewhere and breaking no laws does not entitle a LEO to ask for my "papers".
If that was the case, we would be required to carry our "papers" with us at all times, which we are not.
Give it a few years. lol
I would gladly go on record as stating that I firmly believe that the Denver and Arvada ordinances against open carry and possession of a firearm for personal defense is in direct contradiction of the 2nd Amendment.
So the Initial arrest was, in my opinion, unconstitutional.
When a Judge is sworn in they swear or affirm to uphold and protect/defend that same Constitution. These things are pretty much undeniable fact.
beyond that it gets crazy and fuzzy political this, Corruption that...
As far as the militias, please do not stereotype as not all militias are nutcases preparing to overthrow the government by force, just as not all Law officers punk teenage kids for their pot and are on the M-13 Payroll
Thank you
It would seem to be necessary to have a basic idea of what they can and can't do.
Evidence would indicate otherwise
Grandpa's Sheriff Badge, Littleton 1920's
Unfortunately, if someone calls on you, it is the cops responsibility to contact you and determine no crime is being or will be, committed.
Can you imagine if the cops didn't respond or do anything after being notified of it and someone is killed, due to that person who was reported carrying?
You are putting the cops in a no-win situation and that opens the door to lawsuits.
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
You may have that belief; it doesn't make it law anymore than my belief. Prior to March 18, 2003, it was a legal and lawful municipal ordinance and he violated it. It doesn't matter that now, it is legal; it wasn't then and he was convicted and that conviction was upheld. Your opinion it was unconstitutional. You certainly have that right to think that; it doesn't change the fact that others wearing black robes don't have that same opinion.I would gladly go on record as stating that I firmly believe that the Denver and Arvada ordinances against open carry and possession of a firearm for personal defense is in direct contradiction of the 2nd Amendment.
So the Initial arrest was, in my opinion, unconstitutional.
When a Judge is sworn in they swear or affirm to uphold and protect/defend that same Constitution. These things are pretty much undeniable fact.
beyond that it gets crazy and fuzzy political this, Corruption that...
As far as the militias, please do not stereotype as not all militias are nutcases preparing to overthrow the government by force, just as not all Law officers punk teenage kids for their pot and are on the M-13 Payroll
Thank you
I don't like militias, I'll be up front with that. However, Stanley is involved with those who believe that the Sheriff is the only lawful authority in the county, that they can serve subpoenas to a private court and put liens on your property for millions of dollars, that they don't want to put license plates on their vehicles, etc, etc.
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
You must not spend a whole lot of time in court...
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
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