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    With all those digits your P80 is gonna have a VIN number…..
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    With all those digits your P80 is gonna have a VIN number…..


    Then again who is actually going to bother doing this. When an engraver will throw some random number on it, if one so desires. See how well shit like this has worked for all those who got their "Free" SBR for a brace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post


    Then again who is actually going to bother doing this. When an engraver will throw some random number on it, if one so desires. See how well shit like this has worked for all those who got their "Free" SBR for a brace.
    What's happening with those? Will the ATF now reject all applications?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    What's happening with those? Will the ATF now reject all applications?
    Unlikely. They'll likely process them and have their de facto registration on this firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    What's happening with those? Will the ATF now reject all applications?
    see below

    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Unlikely. They'll likely process them and have their de facto registration on this firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    See how well shit like this has worked for all those who got their "Free" SBR for a brace.
    What has happened negative to those that have the "free SBR"?

    Just curious because my experience is that I have bunch of approved forms for SBRs without a tax stamp that have:

    "Tax Exempt"

    "Approved with conditions - See conditions on the last page of PDF"

    Last page: "Pursuant to ATF Final Rule 2021R-08F"

    What am I missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT951 View Post
    What has happened negative to those that have the "free SBR"?

    Just curious because my experience is that I have bunch of approved forms for SBRs without a tax stamp that have:

    "Tax Exempt"

    "Approved with conditions - See conditions on the last page of PDF"

    Last page: "Pursuant to ATF Final Rule 2021R-08F"

    What am I missing?
    It's irony, we're missing irony. When we're around a group that has traditionally had interest in SBRs, and many people have voluntarily registered SBRs over the past decades this site has been alive....

    Free SBRs are a conspiracy to register guns even if you would have voluntarily registered them as SBRs because you wanted an SBR. And when the law gets reversed, you still have a free SBR....

    The difference is, they paid $200 to register theirs, you didn't pay $200, so yours is registration conspiracy, theirs is a cool SBR. (I guess?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    And when the law gets reversed, you still have a free SBR....
    Unless I missed some news, I don't know that that's been decided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    Unless I missed some news, I don't know that that's been decided.

    I am neither for nor against $200 or free SBR's.
    For the record.. I am for free SBRs. Well free guns (as long as reasonable quality) I am also for. I just wish I could find a store selling free guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    It's irony, we're missing irony. When we're around a group that has traditionally had interest in SBRs, and many people have voluntarily registered SBRs over the past decades this site has been alive....

    Free SBRs are a conspiracy to register guns even if you would have voluntarily registered them as SBRs because you wanted an SBR. And when the law gets reversed, you still have a free SBR....

    The difference is, they paid $200 to register theirs, you didn't pay $200, so yours is registration conspiracy, theirs is a cool SBR. (I guess?)

    A lot of people innately disagree with anything that comes out of people they disagree with. Some people carpe diem and realize opportunities amid bad circumstances.
    Well, I would have registered anyways. Even did it after the amnesty. For me one of the firearms arrived after Jan 31st. January 31st was the trust ownership cut-off date to get amnesty registration for trust. I COULD have done another amnesty regisration, but I paid the $200 because the firearm was purchased after Jan 31st (arrived in Feb). I didnt want to do a anmesty registration now and then worry about paying $200 tax and transfer to trust later. Just paid immediately. The amnesty Form 1s took around 40 days. I filled out paper work over the coarse of two weeks; everyone was approved within an hour of each other. The paid SBR took under 7 days.

    But to me it was a good thing to do as I registered anyways with NFA items. It doesnt matter if I have 1 or 500. The man knows I have guns..

    But, most people on forums that owns guns, the man already knows if they want to.

    Look at how quickly Home Depot can look up a return just with a credit card number. They know the exact item you bought.

    If a person bought something from Bubbas Gun Shop with a credit card (or Scheels, or Cabellas, ect), even if it wasnt a firearm, the government can quickly get list of purchasers. Then go sort. The government has a pretty damn good idea who has guns.

    But... just in case that is not enough... go to the Red counties in Colorado. Look at 4 houses. 3 of those have guns.....

    And then go to some areas of denver... Look at 10 houses... 10 of them have illegal weapons and drugs....

    Go Boulder.... look at 4 houses... 5 of them have spiced latte chia made with oat milk... until they are victim of violent crime and then that house will have a gun...

    And we are fooling ourselves if we think CBI is not keeping a list of approvals....

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