Ukraine War Escalation

[eddiememphis]

Americans sent Ukraine $67 Billion in military aid, as of October 21st, per Department of State.

That seems rather generous.

https://www.gao.gov/blog/ukraine-aid...the%20invasion.

As of April, Congress has appropriated more than $174 billion to assist Ukraine. This includes funding to purchase missiles, ammunition, and combat vehicles for Ukraine. It also includes economic and humanitarian assistance to help those in Ukraine and neighboring countries affected by the invasion.

67... 174... Who cares? We'll just print more!

[BushMasterBoy]

Nuclear weapons are a terrible thing. I used to work on a nuclear weapons system. My father worked on a nuclear weapons system and it killed him with a rare blood cancer. When the weapon explodes it create radionuclides or fallout.
When the weather distributes the fallout around the globe, the fallout descends to the ground. Cows end up eating the fallout. Kids will ingest the fallout concentrated in the cows milk.
To prevent this scenario, I can see the alphabets and the .mil getting involved. The US has just evacuated the embassy in Kyiv. This is a sign.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ne-2024-11-19/

[FoxtArt]

Y?all can ban me for this, but fuck you FoxtArt, you keep my sons out of your fucking mouth.

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Chill. Case was made - international enemies and problems don't disappear by ignoring them. We tried that leading up to WWII. It lead to the biggest war the world had ever seen, and America lost many sons.
We're in the equivalent of the 1930's now. China is spending more on aerospace development in the next 6 years than we have since the space race.

I won't see mine at risk either because if this idiocy, clearly you don't want to risk yours. At the end of the day, discussion matters little as DC will do whatever the heck they want in any event.

The sun nevertheless rises and sets. Have a good day.

[FoxtArt]

Nuclear weapons are a terrible thing. I used to work on a nuclear weapons system. My father worked on a nuclear weapons system and it killed him with a rare blood cancer. When the weapon explodes it create radionuclides or fallout.
When the weather distributes the fallout around the globe, the fallout descends to the ground. Cows end up eating the fallout. Kids will ingest the fallout concentrated in the cows milk.
To prevent this scenario, I can see the alphabets and the .mil getting involved. The US has just evacuated the embassy in Kyiv. This is a sign.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ne-2024-11-19/

https://ua.usembassy.gov/mascot-upda...-kyiv-ukraine/

I wouldn't call it an evacuation, sounds like intel of missles/drones to me. I would think we'd be flying them out if nukes were anticipated.

[BushMasterBoy]

https://ua.usembassy.gov/mascot-upda...-kyiv-ukraine/

I wouldn't call it an evacuation, sounds like intel of missles/drones to me. I would think we'd be flying them out if nukes were anticipated.

Zaporhiza nuclear plant goes into meltdown and you will have a disaster. The Rus has been attacking the power grid.
The nuclear plant is huge. The area will be scorched earth and unusable for a long time.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/r...ike-rcna180458

[Mick-Boy]

WW2 was, objectively, the worst thing humans have ever done. Maybe, just maybe, the lesson isn't that appeasement doesn't work. Maybe the lesson is that we should be looking for off ramps and deescalating conflicts at every opportunity so that we avoid 60million dead. Buchanan's book Churchill, Hitler, and "The Unnecessary War" offers a lot of support for that case. If you're not much of a reader, you can listed to Buchanan talk about it here.

However, setting aside lazy WW2 metaphors, the war in Ukraine was instigated by the west.

You can listen to John Mearsheimer talk about the history in this video from 2014. You can read a blow by blow from Geopolitical Economy. You can read Jeffery Sachs go through the history. You can read the 2008 confidential memo from the current CIA director that the entry of Ukraine into NATO was a red line for Russia. You can read the NATO secretary general talk about how Russia went to war to "prevent NATO, more NATO, close to their borders". You can also learn about the peace deals that were scuttled by the US foreign policy establishment.

I would highly recommend Scott Horton's new book Provoked if you want it all laid out sequentially and loaded with footnotes.

Ukrainian neutrality could have prevented this war. Ukrainian neutrality could still probably end it. All those dead Ukrainians and Russians, who can't speak for themselves, would be alive except for the complete and unearned hubris of the neocons in positions of power. That same hubris is certain that Russia will not resort to using nuclear weapons.

I hope they're right. At the same time, I think it's insane to be risking the complete destruction of our country over who controls South East Ukraine... On Russia's border.... over 5000 miles from DC.

[Sawin]

Has anyone given actual thought to the possibility that wars and pandemics are "allowed to happen" if not actually orchestrated, with the intention of killing millions of people?

[DDT951]

https://ua.usembassy.gov/mascot-upda...-kyiv-ukraine/

I wouldn't call it an evacuation, sounds like intel of missles/drones to me. I would think we'd be flying them out if nukes were anticipated.

What I am seeing on TV is that it is expected that Russia is the next days will launch one or more hypersonic ballistic missiles capable of carrying nukes at Kyiv. It is belived Russia show they would and have the capability to nuke Kyiv.

It being reported that both sides say the war will end when Trump comes in.

Both sides are jockeying for the best negotiating power.

The thinking is slightly that Ukraine wants to trade Kursk for land in Eastern Ukraine. That is why the ATACMS are vital. To keep Russia out of Kursk.

[DDT951]

Has anyone given actual thought to the possibility that wars and pandemics are "allowed to happen" if not actually orchestrated, with the intention of killing millions of people?

No. The extraterrestrials wouldn’t allow that to happen.

[rondog]

Has anyone given actual thought to the possibility that wars and pandemics are "allowed to happen" if not actually orchestrated, with the intention of killing millions of people?

Well, duh. New World Order, one world government, ethnic cleansing, etc. The scary part is someday they may get it right.