King Soopers Strike... Again

[eddiememphis]

The "value" of labor shows the amount of money you earn is directly proportional to the need for your service, your ability to perform it, and the difficulty of replacing you in that role.

The more valuable your skillset and the greater the demand for it, the higher your earning potential should be.

Unions use extortion to artificially inflate wages for people in lower skill, easily replaceable roles.

It continues until the unions price their members out of work by costing the companies too much to keep them employed. Look at U.S. automakers for an example.

[buffalobo]

"Expecting more pay for more education, training, experience, etc = elitist ?!"

No. Your statement is desirable both sides of the equation.

"Much like the dockworkers strike... $39 to $60+ an hour, not a fan of unprofessional/uneducated service jobs extorting key services."

What I quoted sounds elitist, equating Longshoreman to check out clerk or fast food worker.


If you're unarmed, you are a victim

[buffalobo]

Nice strawman, of sorts.

If you think the US would be a great place if everyone from McDonalds workers to doctors earn closer to the same wage, while Elon is worth a trillion, well....

What happens when you give massive income increases to the bottom denominator? Do they actually earn more?

Hell no. The services increase proportionally. Restaurants are so high because food costs and labor costs have dramatically increased. Inflation increases proportionally. Ultimately, they make the same value that they did, just with a larger number associated. Meanwhile, the middle earns less value. The top, proportionally, actually earns more. You slowly "disappear" the middle class. This isn't sky is falling, it's statistically been happening for a while (and yes, this only a part of the cause).

It used to be, "quote" American dream, a person could invest in themselves in either education or trade, work hard, and readily get into a career that made 4x, or 8x minimum wage. They could raise a family off a single income and buy a house in their 20's or 30's.

Now, it's increasingly uncommon to make 3x minimum wage no matter the education or trade. There are essentially no single income typical families that can buy a house in their 20s or 30s.

As this trend continues, where it is increasingly uncommon to make 2x, or even 1.5x minimum wage in Colorado, and more of the population transitions into apartments, and you "disappear" the middle class entirely, is that what you want to see? Everyone earn roughly the same wage regardless of effort or intelligence, and then have the ultra-wealthy on top?

[That is what has slowly been happening]

5% is a "massive" increase?

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

[buffalobo]

The "value" of labor shows the amount of money you earn is directly proportional to the need for your service, your ability to perform it, and the difficulty of replacing you in that role.

The more valuable your skillset and the greater the demand for it, the higher your earning potential should be.

Unions use extortion to artificially inflate wages for people in lower skill, easily replaceable roles.

It continues until the unions price their members out of work by costing the companies too much to keep them employed. Look at U.S. automakers for an example.

Everybody assumes if a worker belongs to a union they are low skilled or uneducated and easily replaced.

Plenty of trades out there where the workers union or not are neither low skilled or easily replaced.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

[buffalobo]

I am not a proponent of unions, personally I think Kroger should get rid of the union and tough it out for the time it takes to rebuild the work force.

What I dislike is the implication that workers by nature of being in a union should be trashed on or derided.

I think unions have out lived their usefulness but I don't hold that against the workers. I also think unions could be useful again if they would toss bad leaders and quit protecting shitty workers.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

[Clint45]

King Soopers: "We will give managers and pharmacists a $4.50 an hour raise if they work through the strike! Everyone else might get a raise maybe, but they can keep working through the strike too!" LMAO. Safeway gonna be extra busy now.

[drew890]

The hilarious thing is that the Safeway/Albertsons contract with the local 7 mirrors King Soopers, but the union won’t strike against Safeway because it would be pointless due to their low sales and no financial impact.

[FoxtArt]

Valid points lobo. FTR not accusing longshoreman of being unskilled or minimum wage... Accusing unions of critical infrastructure of extorting national interests to exceed justfiable raises. That dockworkers union is hellishly corrupt, on top of it, the union boss has indications of organized crime history. That wasn't a union negotiation, it was extortion. I'm also fine with Unions... When properly operated by good people.

[hollohas]

I find joy in crossing picket lines to support businesses being extorted.

Looks like I'll need some groceries from King Soopers tomorrow.

[colorider]

They want a raise because they work at the slowest pace possible without really giving a shit. The checkers work in slow motion and I am always having to bag my own groceries. I'd LOVE to see Kroeger fire all their asses.