Is this time different?

[Oscar77]

Recent update:

Pick any source you want, Trump floated it on One America News Network. And he's toyed with it many times in the past, and absolutely loved branding the first progressive stimulus payments with his name.

https://nypost.com/2025/10/02/us-new...for-americans/

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-t...102238786.html

This would cost oh, north of 700 Billion, vs the 300 Billion in total tariff revenues this year (which by the way, we had Tariff revenues before Trump, too), and of course, pile onto the deficiet spending we currently have exceeding 2 Trillion in the red every year.

Trump has never been fiscially conservative, he's just excellent at marketing like he is.

What does this have to do with the Shutdown?
Are we thread drifting again?

[Aloha_Shooter]

What does this have to do with the Shutdown?
Are we thread drifting again?

Yes, we are. Trump isn't conservative, fiscally or otherwise. No argument there but that is only tangentially related to whether this shutdown might turn out different from others because this time Republicans have the opportunity to show reduction of government doesn't have to be as painful as Clinton and Obama made it in the past few shutdowns. Doing so depends on many factors including the Republicans in the Senate and House growing some spines, minimizing the amount of irrelevant garbage and cheap shots Trump likes to spew out, etc.

The tangent here that I think FoxtArt is taking is that it could be all theater and for naught if Trump increases spending in other areas so there's no net reduction. I say could be because there are some areas where spending does need to happen but it's not extending Obamacare subsidies for illegal aliens.