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    Quote Originally Posted by xwisex View Post
    Babies equal the best accessory! Who needs a nice car or designer threads when you can have a baby. I also feel a lot of children are negelected in the attention dept. and look for it in another, and a baby has too love you, RIGHT!
    No job? Just have a kid and instant income.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    Simple: They see no apparent consequences to their actions.

    From my point of view with a niece, and teenaged female cousins, and some time teaching in the school setting:

    The above quote hit it right on. Kids are now required to take classes where they promote sex and have to care for a computerized baby and etc. It really IS that simple that kids see no apparent consequences for their actions. If they get bored of the kid, they give it up for adoption or the parents of the kid take over.

    I know it defies logic but it is true. Parents raise kids, not schools, not relaives, not friends, but the parents. A lot of parents I've run across say things like: "They can make up their own mind" or other variances where the parents do not take a pivatol role in the raising and educating of their children.

    We used to teach that there is an absolute right and wrong, that sex is best to be had under teh convenat of marriage, that morals/standards/ethics etc had a place in ones' honor/integrity/etc.

    Not any more. Now the "whatever makes me feel good" lifestyle is catching up to us.... rant off. But in all honestly, that quote above is a bullseye.

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    My daughter is 21, coming up on 22 years old so any input I'd get from her would be tainted by the knowledge and experience she has grown into as an adult (BTW: While she is in a serious relationship, she is neither pregnant or is a mother).

    I think TFogger and XWiseX are hitting the nail on the head.

    Mom and Dad are too busy watching American Idol and the sort to provide the type of attention that a child, especially a teenaged girl needs. The daily stress they have just supporting the family financially causes them to just ignore what is most important - their families. They just want to unwind and not have to deal with any more responsibilities once they get home.

    Look at any girl from the time she is a toddler through the time she becomes a teen. They are given dolls to play with and they act the role of a parent to those dolls. These girls love their dolls and in their mind the dolls love them back. Once the girls become teenagers they lose a child imagination and the dolls no longer provide the loving relationship they crave.

    They now no longer have the surrogate relationship of parenting to a doll. The sum of their lifetime experience tells them that they can get love from their own babies, and since they aren't feeling the love in their existing family relationships, they create their own family by getting pregnant.

    Sure their glamorizing, basking, and ecstatic about having a baby, because they now have something that can fill the void of a loving relationship that they felt was missing.

    Just my thoughts.

    ETA: I also think that what TFogger & BigBear have said play a significant factor in the whole situation as well. In fact, I think they go hand-in-hand with what I was saying. (I just refrained from mentioning any ethics/morals/religious type of reasoning per the OP's request.)
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    That and why do girls 6-18 have to dress like cheap hookers?

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    Heard a very, very provocative program on the radio just this week that probably speaks to this in a big way. The speaker was an expert in sexual addiction and treatment (missed the beginning so not sure what organization) and he said that all of the studies show that teenaged girls actually consume more pornography than teenage boys. But it is marketed completely different to young girls--it comes through their teen magazines under the heading of "romance" and their clothing catalogs under the category of "fashion" and all of their romance reading and on and on in nearly every key aspect of young girls' lives. It is marketed as the most important and adult part of life. Little wonder then that girls are way primed by the time of puberty for "romance" and the sex that goes with it since they have been convinced that it is the passage into adulthood from the time they were little. Combine that with dads who are absent from their girl's lives, whether still living in the home and just too busy working and watching TV, or gone from the family chasing their own tail, and the desperate emptiness this leaves in a young girl to have a man hold her and tell her he loves her (what the father was always supposed to be doing) and is there any wonder why girls get sexually involved as soon as they can? I think not.

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    It's those damn tv shows about pregnant teens and teen mothers in my opinion.
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    pretty simple actually


    If I Caught my teenager having sex and getting a girl pregnant I would beat his ass and make him get a Job to support THEM (momma and baby)...












    ...and no consequently go to prison, lose all of my civil rights and They would all wind up a ward of the state anyways.


    Most parents are left with no other option except
    "screw it, the state wants to raise my kid, they can raise the grandkid too."



    Or SAFriday could be experiencing the "Old Man Syndrome" in which it Appears babies are having babies, but the parents he are seeing are actually 20-25 and in a distortion of the time-space continuum as we get Older everyone else gets younger.

    This was experienced by me at a certain club during my 40th Birthday party. When I pondered a young ladies age and instead of my normal perverse thoughts I wondered where the girls father was and why he let her out undressed like that.


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    Anyone seen the documentary "The Lost Children Of Rockdale County"? It's not an isolated event. Kids with everything but parenteral supervision. Sad.
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