November 5th

[BigBear]

That movie sucked worse than my ex....








hehehe

[Byte Stryke]

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[Elhuero]

you folks do realize that the reason we have the second amendment is so the people can violently overthrow the government at will, right?

if you think it's about promoting a return to catholicism in britain, celebrating terrorisim or leftist propaganda you are ignorant.

[sniper7]

you folks do realize that the reason we have the second amendment is so the people can violently overthrow the government at will, right?

I agree and and disagree with this. that was its original intention.
could it still happen today, yes, if everyone had enough as a whole, including most military members and police officers.

but being that the .mil has massive amounts of fire power compared to our ARs and M1s and AKs, it would take a hell of a force to overthrow the .gov.

not that it couldn't be done, but back in the day when it would have been musket for musket, that was a lot better odds. today when it is AR-15 with a beta mag vs. a F-16 with a laser guided bomb, the odds don't seem to stack up as well!

That is just the reality. I also look at another reason for the 2nd is for self defense. With more and more people hitting rock bottom these days and brainless wonders robbing and stealing whatever they can, the 2nd plays a vital role in keeping society as a whole in check. "an armed society is a polite society"

[Elhuero]

I agree and and disagree with this. that was its original intention.
could it still happen today, yes, if everyone had enough as a whole, including most military members and police officers.

but being that the .mil has massive amounts of fire power compared to our ARs and M1s and AKs, it would take a hell of a force to overthrow the .gov.

not that it couldn't be done, but back in the day when it would have been musket for musket, that was a lot better odds. today when it is AR-15 with a beta mag vs. a F-16 with a laser guided bomb, the odds don't seem to stack up as well!

That is just the reality. I also look at another reason for the 2nd is for self defense. With more and more people hitting rock bottom these days and brainless wonders robbing and stealing whatever they can, the 2nd plays a vital role in keeping society as a whole in check. "an armed society is a polite society"

if there really was a full on govt. vs. citizens fight where they brought the full might of the military to bear on the population the only way the govt could could would be by nuking us.

[Irving]

I was going to bring up a similar point. What is the point of trying to "win" if after the war there is no one for the government to "govern" anymore? Who are they going to tax to pay for all the damage?

[sniper7]

if there really was a full on govt. vs. citizens fight where they brought the full might of the military to bear on the population the only way the govt could could would be by nuking us.

yes and no.

I look at the .mil vs the taliban, and these guys still survive in caves and in secrecy living amongst the rest of the population.

I guess it all depends on how it all went down. it could come to a nuke, it could be a slow and painful picking off of the "bad citizens", whom would live in fear daily, absolute secrecy because there would be many people looking to get ahead by throwing others under the bus.

Either way, I wish we were allowed to better defend ourselves and we could own tanks and attack choppers and fighters. I think it would only be fair

[sniper7]

I was going to bring up a similar point. What is the point of trying to "win" if after the war there is no one for the government to "govern" anymore? Who are they going to tax to pay for all the damage?

lol, you have already though waaayy to far beyond what the .gov does. I think one of their super-computers just crashed thinking about that

[Byte Stryke]

I believe the government would survive regardless of whatever civil violations they imposed on "We the People".
Too many Sheeple,
look at the number of registered voters vs the actual turnout, now compare this to the number of eligible voters.

"Yeah whatever, pay taxes, go to work, keep head down. Avoid, Hide and Deny."

[islandermyk]