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    Quote Originally Posted by Elhuero View Post
    they have to park those vehicles somewhere.......
    Indeed....
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    Not to shoot you guys down here or anything, BUT...

    There is already a Federal Case law on thermal imaging that reads...

    Kyllo v. United States: 533 U.S. 27 (2001)
    Where the government uses a (thermal imaging) device that is not in general public use to explore details of a home that would otherwise be unknowable without physical intrusion, the surveillance is a "search" and is presumptively unreasonable without a warrant.

    ^ that is right out of the baca book

    So I would imagine if anyone were to get "nabbed" doing something illegal by cops using such a device, a even moderately compitent lawyer could shoot that down. And I would imagne some case law would come about focused on x-ray scans. Because if you think about it, its basicly the same concept it just hasn't been put to paper yet, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Search without probable cause is a search without probable cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.man View Post
    Lead based paint, yeah that's the ticket, all the stuff we have from china is safe to stash shit in cause it's painted with lead base paint.
    you just figured out the REAL reason they wanted to ban lead based paint!
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    A little bird suggested to me that they might use that to check out places near where the Pres is going to be, but not for normal everyday stuff.
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    See, things like this make me wonder how dumb our gov't is.

    Take all of whats been said as true the future isn't hard to predict. Jerkwad Terrorist drives a van full of whatever-the-hell-terrorist stuff around and gets caught by said X-ray van. Awesome, go USA! but then, amazingly, Jerkwad is let go because the search, and there by everything after it was TOTALLY ILLEGAL...Strong work Justice Department, your foresight continues to amaze us all.

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    The only legitimate purpose I could see a law enforcement agency using this type of device is where your expectation of privacy is reduced, such as at the border crossing over. Otherwise, the 4th Amendment protections would kick in.
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    Don't know why they spend all that money on the machines, these are alot cheaper.

    http://www.tomheroes.com/Comic%20Ads/classic%20ads/x-ray_glasses.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by lead_magnet View Post
    Not to shoot you guys down here or anything, BUT...

    There is already a Federal Case law on thermal imaging that reads...

    Kyllo v. United States: 533 U.S. 27 (2001)
    Where the government uses a (thermal imaging) device that is not in general public use to explore details of a home that would otherwise be unknowable without physical intrusion, the surveillance is a "search" and is presumptively unreasonable without a warrant.

    ^ that is right out of the baca book

    So I would imagine if anyone were to get "nabbed" doing something illegal by cops using such a device, a even moderately compitent lawyer could shoot that down. And I would imagne some case law would come about focused on x-ray scans. Because if you think about it, its basicly the same concept it just hasn't been put to paper yet, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Search without probable cause is a search without probable cause.
    I wonder how many drug dealers could actually come up with the lawyer to bail them out of that one. the .gov uses the info, then just waits for the suspect to fuck up under current laws.
    seems like a way for them to gather intel on people then bust them in other ways.

    Now proving they received their intel from imaging from the beginning would be another fight I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.man View Post
    Don't know why they spend all that money on the machines, these are alot cheaper.

    http://www.tomheroes.com/Comic%20Ads...ay_glasses.htm

    I'm going to order some
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