El paso county? I'd guess military IDOriginally Posted by 2ndChildhood
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El paso county? I'd guess military ID
Yup, voluenteer NOTHING
Name
Rank
Division/company
THATS IT
jk.....sorta, just remember that LEO, even though the odds are he is a stand up guy, isnt asking to look in your trunk because he thinks he left his crock pot in there. He is asking because A- he has to ASK first in most cases and B- he thinks you have drugs, a dead body or the worst a GUN!
In all fairness in all of my vast 29 years of life, I have only ran across one asshole cop, and he was off duty, on private property(my aunts) giving my 12 year old cousin crap about his go-ped. He shut his hole when I threatened to call the cops! A uncle of mine has also spent about 30 years on the force with Saudi-Aurora, I have all the respect in the world for cops, it truly is a thankless job.
A job that starts paying a kid with a few months part time at a community college academy,in the metro area at mid to high $40,000. I see $45-49k a year to start. not exactly thankless. i know teachers and cops. gods angels on earth.
seriously, whats with the "Guns in the trunk?"
and if I Have a few AKs and ARs in the trunk... its not illegal.
it would actually be more illegal to have the cops crockpot back there!
KevDen
in all honesty, how do you react to a firearm in the vehicle during a stop?
IE: No CCW BUT the firearm is in a glovebox, etc.
Yeah I don't understand the gun question either. Guns are legal to have in the car.
"There are no finger prints under water."
For some reason. It seems to be a facebook phenomenon to post up this question that you wake up in jail with said person and you are only allowed to say 4 words to that person. What do you say?
I get chided when I put up my simple but prudent answer.
My 4 words are:
"Say nothing, call lawyer"
Not sure what to say...
Years ago, I was dating a snobby rich chick whose daddy was a high priced defense attorney here in Denver. We'd been dating for several months and I had met her dad, eaten dinner with the family, stayed over and got some nookie, etc., when she casually mentions in a conversation that her father says cops lie about everything and that she believes that because her daddy said it. Keep in mind, I WAS (and still am) A COP. Huge insult to me. We broke up shortly thereafter.
Do what you like when it comes to dealing with the police. We'll do what we have to, to deal with you. If you think calling your attorney is necessary for a traffic stop, you got a cell phone. Press hard while signing the ticket, you are making five copies.
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
Not all cops are cool, not all of them are Just about enforcing the law.
the assertion is "If there isn't a crime, I Can't get an accommodation and without an accommodation I will never get a promotion. So we make a crime to further my career."
"No one is Innocent, you just haven't looked hard enough."
I've heard this from Aurora PD detective. Hell they spouted it in the Criminology classes back in '05.
But Seriously
I'm still waiting for an answer to the Guns in the trunk thing.
Realistically, I can't answer that question without more questions.
First, why am I searching?
Second, was the vehicle or the driver involved in a criminal activity?
Third, what is the criminal history of the owner/driver?
Fourth, are all the firearms, legal firearms?
So, I'm going to assume I know what Byte is asking; he was stopped for a traffic violation, gave consent to search, isn't a convicted felon and there aren't any illegal controlled substances in the vehicle. In this situation, I would probably clear the serial numbers of the firearms to determine if they have been reported stolen and barring that, I would return Byte's documents to him and wish him a good day (maybe write a ticket...it is Byte after all)
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
This sounds legit to me. I agree, just be polite and respectful if you have to deal with a LEO. 99% of the time they will be polite and respectful back. If you are a dick, most will continue to be professional but you're certainly increasing your odds that your rudeness will bite you in the ass. A warning may turn into a ticket, a ticket may turn into another for a cracked windshield, bald tires or for littering for throwing the first ticket on the ground. Don't get worked up. Why risk escalating it? Why not give LEO's the same common courtesy you give everyone else?
My father who is a veteran of the AZ Highway Patrol has always told me to never allow a search of my car.
Another standard questions is "have you had anything to drink today?" Even if you just had that one beer an hour ago while watching the game, don't say "Yes." While you might not be anywhere close to drunk, you saying "yes" means you're going to end up doing a road-side even if you explain you only had "one beer." Every single piss-drunk driver on the planet says they "only had one." To a police officer "I only had one" means it's time to make you walk the line to be sure...as they should. Drunk drivers suck. If you truly had more than "just one", don't drive in the first place.
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