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Damn Byte...you and Stuart seem to have a lot of police contact...we ought to get together for a beer sometime and discuss your criminal behavior. I guess I didn't stop the correct vehicles.
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
i have never, ever had a cop ask me anything other than " do you know why I stopped you" and license, registration, and Proof of insurance. I have only been pulled over maybe 4 times total, in 20+ years of driving.
Yes you guys can have an Obama style beer a thon.
I was pulled over for "suspicion of DUI"Originally Posted by OneGuy67
(read: I'm Bored and we haven't had any other stops tonight)
Passed the FST and when I was doing that they were searching the car because they had probably cause(not a typo).
They found my unloaded.380 secured in the trunk and Confiscated it "pending investigation".
When my BAC test came back the next morning... because you know, passing the Field Sobriety Test wasn't enough. I got a ride out to my stripped truck.
When I asked about my LCP at the Property officer I was informed that all weapons confiscated by the department are destroyed regardless of status.
Northglenn did this? Now, did you pass the SFST's or did you just believe you passed the SFST's? Since you provided a sample for a BAC test, I'm guessing you didn't pass them. I'm guessing you provided a breath sample, although I don't understand the delay..."When my BAC test came back the next morning". Breath tests are immediate (2 minutes, give or take a few seconds) and blood tests take a couple of weeks. If you were arrested under the suspicion of DUI, then a search of the vehicle isn't out of the realm of normality (at least, up to last June as court decisions changed that). Your handgun was found and seized (Okay, I can see that), but wasn't returned to you due to a policy of not returning firearms? A seizure has to have probable cause; you know, the ol' crime occured, is occuring or about to occur? What did the report say concerning it? Then you were taken back to your vehicle, which while you were gone, had been stripped by persons unknown.
I don't know Byte...it is an interesting situation that I would love to look into further.
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
My father was pulled over in Elpaso County a year or two ago, he fits the description of a drug runner.
1. Older White Male
2. Beater old Truck
3. Beater old truck full of shit.
4. Coming from the south. (he just came from texas)
Lady officer (state patrol I think) asked to search his vehicle, he consented. The crap this lady had to pull out of his truck was just fun. Old smelly camping crap, clothes, tools, bows, arrows, deer antlers, plastic tarps, just a mess. She found nothing and had to put it all back. ha ha ha
He later found out that he didn't have to consent, was pretty pissed at the waste of time it was.
Last edited by gnihcraes; 11-19-2010 at 17:23.
the Breathalyzer in their vehicle was broken and I was as sober as it gets.
Seriously, not a drop.
So I had to be taken into the station.
They did it there and I Was held overnight.
Northglenn didn't do this one.
but they have done one like it.
They have also done one like this to my Aunt... I went out and helped her put all of her stuff back together
They pulled her over and tore her car apart because a man in a Blue SUV on the other side of town flashed a gun er some shit.
Afterward, they had found no gun they left her alone to put her car back together. because "That's the law."
The next day the same cops show up at her table (waitress)
She waits 8 Minutes (Max is ten) then brings them all a small plate with a card
"We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."
the Breathalyzer in their vehicle was broken and I was as sober as it gets.
Seriously, not a drop.
So I had to be taken into the station.
They did it there and I Was held overnight.
Northglenn didn't do this one.
but they have done one like it.
They have also done one like this to my Aunt... I went out and helped her put all of her stuff back together
They pulled her over and tore her car apart because a man in a Blue SUV on the other side of town flashed a gun er some shit.
Afterward, they had found no gun they left her alone to put her car back together. because "That's the law."
The next day the same cops show up at her table (waitress)
She waits 8 Minutes (Max is ten) then brings them all a small plate with a card
"We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."
Not to quibble with you, mind you. The item kept in the vehicle is called a Portable Breath Tester (PBT), not a breathalyzer and the results obtained from it aren't admissible in court since it isn't a calibrated instrument.
So, you were arrested (whether the arrest was valid or not, I can't say) and you provided a breath sample later, which showed no alcohol. You were released without charges (i assume)...sometime later. You were given a ride back to your vehicle and while you were gone, some peoples unknown had stripped your vehicle of items.
I don't understand your aunt's situation. Are you saying someone reported a driver of a blue SUV flashing a gun and your aunt was pulled over as a suspicious vehicle due to its similarity?
Byte, over the course of time I've commented on this blog, I've thought you to be someone who is rational so I have no reason to not believe what you say. Having said that, these examples don't make sense to me from a law enforcement perspective. I understand your observations and law enforcements may not mesh very well, but I am trying to understand.
I would be interested in knowing the agencies involved and even researching the specific investigations to see what the officers wrote regarding them.
As an aside, did you get your handgun back?
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
My Dad told me the one of worst parts of his job as highway patrol was having to search through people's nasty shit in their dirty old cars and so he always did it out of necessity and never to give someone a hard time. I don't know because I am not a LEO but I think that would be one of the last things I would want to do during my shift. Even on "slow" nights I'm sure there are more interesting things to do.
Sounds like you got the shaft and I can understand why an incident like this would change your perspective. It is something like this that I think the stuff in the OP is trying to address. Even if you have had bad contacts with police in the past, stay cool and courteous for every stop in an effort to avoid any potential escalation.
Are you fighting the department in question regarding your handgun?
The entire "Detention" was BS from start to finish
It would be as if I Came to your home, too everything from your house and laid it out on your lawn, house unlocked, took you downtown and held you overnight "on Suspicion." even though I know damn well you aren't guilty of anything, But if I Dont run someone in for something it looks like I am just in the patrol car sleeping all of the time...
when we pulled away from my Truck... everything I that was in the truck was OUT of the truck...
Doors open.
Secondly, the Aunt thing.
at about 1640 hrs on a weekday (I forget exactly which) there was an incident in wheatridge involving a MAN in a blue SUV and a gun...
at about 1645 SHE was pulled over by PD in NORTHGLENN at 106th and Washington
I'll let you think about that.
and no, the weapon was reported as clean and destroyed.
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