A Cop's Advice on Dealing with Cops

[Irving]

And Stuart, your family member walking drunk with a firearm on him is unlawful. Be pissed all you want, but he shouldn't have done that.

So, my friend. Yes, you seem to have more than your share of police contacts (by your own admission) and I wonder why. Natural curiosity. Maybe one day we'll sit down over a beer and you'll tell me about them. Maybe not.

No, I was mad because I thought that the gun was going to be destroyed and gone forever. That is why I was mad. That wasn't the case.

Also, I said I have had an average amount of personal contact with the police. I have contact with the police less than once a year. For a a few years there, I averaged being pulled over about once a year, but that has been going down.

Also, if we got together to talk about all my experiences with the police, you would fall asleep.

[OneGuy67]

No, I was mad because I thought that the gun was going to be destroyed and gone forever. That is why I was mad. That wasn't the case.

Also, I said I have had an average amount of personal contact with the police. I have contact with the police less than once a year. For a a few years there, I averaged being pulled over about once a year, but that has been going down.

Also, if we got together to talk about all my experiences with the police, you would fall asleep.

Ha ha! Okay Stu. I just might fall asleep...might not though. I have a passion for my occupation as you probably can tell. The offer is still on the table if you ever want to discuss an issue over an adult beverage.

[Irving]

Of course I'd go drink a beer with you. I don't want you to think that I wouldn't. I also don't want you to think that I'm a cop hater. I'm certainly not.

[ERNO]

I can't comment on the gun laws in Maryland. I don't know them.

Here in COLORADO, I would say if you aren't a felon, if the firearms are lawful firearms and you don't have a round in the chamber of non-handguns, there isn't going to be an issue if the officer does search the vehicle. The question would be why the officer is searching the vehicle. Even telling the officer you have them in the vehicle in that manner and refusing a search isn't going to have you sitting on the curb wearing metal bracelets. The officer has to develop probable cause that a crime is about to occur, is occuring or will soon be occuring.

If the officer asks permission to search the vehicle, you can say no. Simple. No. The officer can ask if he could look at the firearms and you can say no.

One question, why do you think he need his commanding officer's permission to do his job?

Add to the fire, your thought of having a "naked firearm in the front or back seat"...what is a naked firearm? You can have a visible or concealed firearm in your vehicle and not violate any concealed carry law (Here in Colorado).

The question about the commanding officer: I'm not quite sure myself, I believe I read about it in a gun magazine about a year ago. I want to be as polite to the officer as much as I can. By saying, "no" sounds rude to me, and unless he has probable cause, If he is that determined to search my car because he called his commanding officer then I have it on recorded tape somewhere and hopefully he would not bother to search my car and just let me just drive right on out of town.
But if I was carrying something illegal, I would definitly say no.
I guess instead of naked firearm I should have said, uncased firearm.
I do not have a CCW here in Maryland, because I don't carry around a lot of money and my life has not been threatened enough to be qualified to have one.
Firearms have to be cased in a vehicle for transport. No loaded pistol magazines. Ammunition for pistols must be transported in a different place other than than the pistol location. Like, if you have the pistol cased in your vehicle passenger compartment, ammo must be stored in the trunk.

[Irving]

I can drive around with an uncased gun sliding around on my dash board if I want.

[HBARleatherneck]

dont do it Stuart... its a trap.

[Irving]

I'm sure I'd get the shit kicked out of me for it.

[Troublco]

dont do it Stuart... its a trap.

SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Dammit, I wanted to see him do it...

[HBARleatherneck]

its like at thanksgiving when the MAN sends the free turkey dinner invitations to all the dirtbags. Who actually show up and get the nice stainless steel jewelery. What a bunch of dumb asses.

[Byte Stryke]

Ha ha! Okay Stu. I just might fall asleep...might not though. I have a passion for my occupation as you probably can tell. The offer is still on the table if you ever want to discuss an issue over an adult beverage.