Best combat shotgun

[carnplanenut]

I have a Mossber 500 Pursuader and a 930 SPX, both are awesome. For overall 100% reliability, pump is the way to go.

[CO-Exprs]

Competition has a tendency to weed out the best from the rest. This is all personal opinion of course, but I tried all of the major brands and models in search of a tactical shotgun I could use for home defense and for 3G. I ran Benellis, Remingtons, Mossbergs and Winchesters. My selection considered reliabilibty, shootability, versatility, mag capacity, equipment, reloadability and cost. For semi-auto, I settled on the FN-SLP MK1. 22" choked barrel, iron sights, scope rail, solid construction, easy to reload, easy on recoil, 8rd mag, less parts than an 1100 and just as reliable as an M2. The extra weight makes follow up shots really quick. I have about 3k rounds through my SLP and have found it to be very reliable, so long as you clean the piston and mag tube after you shoot it. It's easy to break down and clean too. For Pump, I used to feel 870s were king of the pump action heap, but the Mossberg 590 spx is the new king of the pump action heap. The action is smooth, simple and solidly built. 8rd magazine, iron sights and easy reloading make this shotty meaner than a caged wolverine. A friend of mine runs his very successfully in 3G iron man division. I believe these two choices to represent the pinnacle of tactical shotgun value and execution in design and function.

[Hoopty]

If I had to choose between my 870's, 1187 Police, or Saiga 12's it would be the Saiga 12's hands down.

They are just as reliable as a pump under normal use (I find that about 500 rounds of shit target ammo without cleaning is where you will start to see some misfeeds etc). Keep in mind, this is on the "high power" gas setting shooting the lightest loads possible! With better ammo and full power loads (buckshot, slugs etc) you could probably do 750-1000 before it starts giving you problems. Reloading ANY tube-fed takes way too long to be a "great" tactical gun IMO. You really can't beat 20 rounds in a drum, or 10-12 rounds in a stick mag with lightning fast reloads.

Love the 1187, and it definitely has less felt recoil than the Saigas, but once again, reloading a tube-fed shotgun is for the birds.

My old roommate has a Benelli (super 90?) and it is nice, but kicks like a mule in comparison. Again, reloading tubes sucks.

[Hoser]

Again, reloading tubes sucks.

You need to practice it more. It isnt hard or slow.

[DeusExMachina]

You need to practice it more. It isnt hard or slow.

Its pretty difficult to make the argument that reloading one round at a time is going to be as quick as a 10 or even 5-round magazine change. No matter how fast you are.

The advantage is administrative reloads are fast and easy. God forbid you need to use all 8 rounds in a tube. Emergency reloads, you're kind of screwed and will want to switch to sidearm until the threat is over.

You wont be topping off the rounds in your Saiga magazines while behind cover in a firefight, that's for sure.

[Hoser]

And 99.9% of us will never see combat, much less combat with a shotgun...

[Graves]

It's like the trany debate: Manual vs. Auto - some folks could use the extra help.

[BigBear]

Its pretty difficult to make the argument that reloading one round at a time is going to be as quick as a 10 or even 5-round magazine change. No matter how fast you are.

The advantage is administrative reloads are fast and easy. God forbid you need to use all 8 rounds in a tube. Emergency reloads, you're kind of screwed and will want to switch to sidearm until the threat is over.

You wont be topping off the rounds in your Saiga magazines while behind cover in a firefight, that's for sure.

And 99.9% of us will never see combat, much less combat with a shotgun...

Rgr what Hoser said... Isn't three gun more about strategic planning on how to accomplish the stage? I could see a tube fed having a great advantage in most situations when needing to "top off" a round or two instead of trying to fill a mag and reinsert, etc...

But, just my know nothing two cents. Can I have change please?

[DeusExMachina]

But isn't that the point of the thread? It's about combat shotguns...

Are you going to argue that the best combat shotgun is a side by side?

[Hoser]

Rgr what Hoser said... Isn't three gun more about strategic planning on how to accomplish the stage?

3-gun is not "Combat." It is a game. The targets dont shoot back. That is why this thread makes me laugh.

If you want to know what shotgun can hold up for lots of fast shooting like in 3-gun or skeet/trap/SC, I can chime in.

I know of only a handful of people on this site that have spent time in a war zone. And maybe one or two of them might have carried a shotgun. Every time I have been deployed, all I had was a simple M9 and I didnt get to shoot it, not even once. And that is fine with me.