Who owns a RED Hummer H2?

[Jumpstart]

I know driving back north I pass an entering douglas county so i dont think its in douglas. anyone?

joe

It's in Douglas county, just over the Teller county line.

[cstone]

"I believe it is illegal to cut down a live tree in a national Forrest without a permit."

There is the answer to your jurisdiction question: The US Forest Service.

I do not know the regulations, however I do not believe that cutting down a live tree with small arms will result in anything greater than a fine. The USFS rangers would be the subject matter experts for that issue.

For me, it is just as upsetting to drive into Pawnee range areas and see all of the garbage. If people don't learn to respect what isn't theirs, then it isn't likely that I will be able to teach them.

[Geology Rocks]

I'm in LE and just couldn't figure out what the crime would be...

But I'm sure ELF (Earth Liberation Front) would love to help you track them down.

You mentioned the tree, but were they, in addition, shooting in an unsafe direction?

I guess I'm saying I dont see what the crime here is. Perhaps destruction of property, but then, the tree was on the range? You don't say.

• Target Shooting rules apply to firearms, air rifles and gas guns. This includes devices used in recreational Paintball activities.
• Shooters are prohibited from destroying any natural feature on the National Forest, including plants and trees.
• Shooters shall not use paintballs or other forms of ammunition that would result in visible residue except where authorized in ranges that operate under special-use permit.
• Steel core, armor piercing or Teflon ammunition is not permitted.
• You may only shoot at a target which is dirt, paper, wood, clay pigeon, or a metal spinning/knockdown target. Pick up your targets when you are done.
• Firearms must not be discharged within 150 yards of any developed area such as roads, trails, campgrounds, bodies of water, etc.

Copied from the national Forest website and told me by a pike forest ranger 2 years ago. If it has changed its news to me....

Joe

[sniper7]

i honestly see absolutely nothing coming about from this. the tree was probably shot at multiple times before, these guys finished it off.

was it wrong? yes.

is the forest service going to go through mass amount of effort to track these guys (who nobody has any info on), then prove they were the ones or get them to admit that they shot and killed the tree, and finally give them a fine.
I highly doubt it.

[sniper7]

Copied from the national Forest website and told me by a pike forest ranger 2 years ago. If it has changed its news to me....

Joe

I always caught multiple people off trail on dirt bikes destroying national forest, which i had pictures of the destruction, the bikes, the people, and their OHV permit numbers, all taken down by me personally to the white river national forest service station, filled out the reports on each person and event and not a damn thing was done about it.

[jerrymrc]

i honestly see absolutely nothing coming about from this. the tree was probably shot at multiple times before, these guys finished it off.

was it wrong? yes.

is the forest service going to go through mass amount of effort to track these guys (who nobody has any info on), then prove they were the ones or get them to admit that they shot and killed the tree, and finally give them a fine.
I highly doubt it.

No they will not. Having been at many a FS meeting back in the day (only about 8 years ago) I can tell you that A. they do not give a shit about you.

B. they make rules up as they go and you are the one that will be screwed.

c. They have the power at the local level to make 1000 of acres off limits to shooting.

You act like there is some sort of law that protects us when it comes to shooting on federal land. You are sadly mistaken.

In all reality I have no dog in this fight because I do belong to a couple of ranges that are close to me. The only reason I go to these areas is because of the site and it's members.

Go to your local forrest service office and bitch at them. Tell them the laws that make you able to shoot on federal land.

They will (and have) used one mistake on the shooting community to make large areas "off limits".

[Marlin]

to late...you have been quoted and are now being held to it completely

joe

You forget, I can make them both disappear...

Long day.. Hee,,hee.. Forgot where I was.. or, it was..

[Bowtie]

Hey guys, stop shooting trees. And clean that shit up

Thats all.

[Beprepared]

Douglas County, $500 for shooting a live tree, $2000 for cutting one down. I believe it is still in the Manitou Experimental Forest(or maybe borders) and the Dr. currently in charge has been getting rather persnickety. He has already thinking of limiting atv access in that area. I enjoy shooting at the south site, it's my F'ING backyard, but I'm enjoying it less and less. Lets keep things clean and lawful.

[BushMasterBoy]

The ranger is not gonna like this Yogi...