Good info on disinfecting water for cheap!!!

[jerrymrc]

I knew that was coming.

[4gunfun]

Thanks Jeff350 and Fentonite. Just trying to help some good folk out. Didn't expect it to turn into a debate or pissing match. Use this info if you like or ignore it if you think it is poison. Information and education is goooooooood. Debating can be good too.

[SNAFU]

No, I'm gonna put a heaping teaspoon into 2 gallons and put it on a shelf. For the $14 plus shiping for 30 tablets will make 7.5 gallons of water which will last my family of 6 plus their spouses about a day. So if I want to say last 6 months $15 x 180 days = $2700. I'll spend the $5 on pool shock and the rest on food and other supplies. But to each their own.

FYI,,I said I rely on my Pocket filter and Expedition filter.
I've also never paid more than $5 for 6 of the 30pack Micropur tablets.
But they are quite good for hiking/camping/backpacking/canoing.

[zoo9guy]

Thanks Jeff350 and Fentonite. Just trying to help some good folk out. Didn't expect it to turn into a debate or pissing match. Use this info if you like or ignore it if you think it is poison. Information and education is goooooooood. Debating can be good too.

Thanks for bringing this up, I spent sometime searching out more info on this and it seems to be the way to go! Keep your powder dry.

[ldmaster]

A corrosive chemical if there was one!

But all that aside, exactly where are we planning on getting the water to purify in the first place? We live in a semi-desert and it only SEEMS like there's water everywhere. The municipal ponds are almost all fed artificially.

I've been toying with putting one of those food-grade cubes they transport syrup in - like 300 gallons? In the garage.

One of the more likely terrorist attacks is a municipal water supply, specifically the treatment plant. We're in fairly safe country for earthquakes, but interruptions of the power grid put the water system down for the count too.

I've always wondered how hard it would be to dig a well without letting the city know I was doing it.

Just sayin'!

[4gunfun]

Water in the city will be a problem just like food and gas if the SHTF. I have spent thousands preparing a place in the mtns. It has hurt my retirement plans and my budget imencely (sp) but I have piece of mind. My wife worries about water more than me. In the winter there is snow and runoff up there. In the summer it will be a little tougher. Large tarps to collect rain water is part of the plan.

[ldmaster]

I am an avid watcher of everything Alaskan on TV. Yeah it's not real knowledge, but a lot of it opens the eye - ya know?

Anyway, in one episode of one show the people trying to live "off the grid" attempted to use melted snow and ice to meet their water needs.

Turns out that snow comes in different types, some have a tremendous amount of air, and some do not. At higher elevations snow contains MORE air than lower elevations, then there is fluffy vs heavy, etc...

Anyways they spent an inordinate amount of time melting snow, and figured for a five gallon bucket of snow melted, they (in their conditions) could get about 2 inches of water in the bottom.

Turns out that converting snow to water takes a LOT of heat, the air content of the snow tends to insulate it and it takes longer to do.

This might be worth a dry run to determine how easy collecting snow for water would be in grid down situations.

[Irving]

NPR was running a news piece on people helping out in Haiti tonight, and they had a guy on who owns a company in Rocky Ford that makes some water purifying deal. I think it is called something like a SunSpring. Anyway, they cost like $25,000 but can purify so thousands of gallons a day for 10 years. The company has set up 19 of them in Haiti and they were saying that since 90% of the water is consumed, instead of used for watering lawns and washing cars, that each one is able to support thousands of people.

I should look it up and check it out.

EDIT: Link to an article. 4 gallons a minute.

http://www.newsfirst5.com/news/rocky...iers-to-haiti/

[cstone]

There was another story today on NPR related to Haiti this morning. When I heard it I thought of the guys on this board who are looking for opportunities to test/train in real world, post disaster circumstances.

Seems like humanitarian projects of the simple, basic needs kinds in Haiti would present some excellent opportunities. Most of the post disaster situations I can think of involve urban or semi-urban collapse of infrastructure type stuff. The best way not to have to defend yourself from the crazed masses who miss their creature comforts would be to help them restore access to fresh water, sanitation, shelter, and some power. Teach a man to fish kind of thing.

If you can't get something to work in Haiti today, maybe you might need to rethink how well it would work for you later, after a future disaster here in the States.

Train like you fight. Test yourself and your equipment in real world conditions.

[StagLefty]

Train like you fight. Test yourself and your equipment in real world conditions.

Absolutely !! There was a large post on another forum I go to that was pointing out how people nowadays buy stuff just to have it but have no idea how to use it or even what it's for. Having the latest Maxpedition pack,solar water filter,trauma medical kit etc. is not the answer in most real world situations.
It's also not real cost effective to buy some of the whistles and bells available on the internet ninja suppliers.